Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/12/27
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Doug, you are nothing if not utterly predictable. ;-) On 12/27/06 1:11 PM, "telyt@earthlink.net" <telyt@earthlink.net> wrote: > It's simple B.D., don't shove emotions or attitudes into my words. The > reality check is yours, are you projecting your own emotions onto others? > Shove your projections elsewhere. > > Doug Herr > Birdman of Sacramento > http://www.wildlightphoto.com > > Original Message: > ----------------- > From: B. D. Colen bd@bdcolenphoto.com > Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 12:48:23 -0500 > To: lug@leica-users.org > Subject: Re: [Leica] Best flash for M8? > > > I hardly consider that an "accusation," or a slur for that matter - I > wonder > why you do - Reality Check 101. > > > On 12/27/06 11:04 AM, "telyt@earthlink.net" <telyt@earthlink.net> wrote: > >> B.D., I don't appreciate being labelled as one who is >> "worrying about the 'film-vs.-digital' issue". Please either substantiate >> this accusation or keep your planting emotions in others' words to > yourself. >> >> If you cannot substantiate such accusations then don't make them. >> Journalism 101. >> >> Doug Herr >> Birdman of Sacramento >> http://www.wildlightphoto.com >> >> Original Message: >> ----------------- >> From: B. D. Colen bd@bdcolenphoto.com >> Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 10:56:31 -0500 >> To: lug@leica-users.org >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Best flash for M8? >> >> >> Doug, there are people using film, and people using digital. There are > also >> people who recognize the foolishness of calling the flash system for > digital >> a "work around," and who recognize that that kind of thinking is based on >> the belief that real photography=film - whether or not one has sprung for > a >> DMR - and anything else is a "work around." Film is film; digital is >> digital. There is high speed, add-on lighting designed to work with the >> requirements of film, and high speed, add-on lighting designed to work > with >> the requirements of digital. Designers of things digital no more have to >> "work around" issues related to the sensor, than designers of things film >> had to "work around" the slit of the focal plane shutter, or the > particular >> sensitivities of film - they designed FOR them. >> >> >> >> >> On 12/27/06 8:28 AM, "Douglas Herr" <telyt@earthlink.net> wrote: >> >>> B.D., being the respected and experienced word-journalist that you are, >>> you no doubt know how to research the facts to back up your statements. >>> How about you research the LUG archives and point out to us where I >>> indicated that I'm "worrying about the 'film-vs.-digital' issue"? >>> >>> The fact is that there are people using film, there are people using >>> digital, some use both and some have used one and not the other. From >>> the perspective of many people on this list TTL flash on a digital >>> camera is unfamiliar. The camera and flash makers had to work around >>> the sensor reflectance issue before TTL flash would work reliably. >>> >>> Doug Herr >>> Birdman of Sacramento >>> http://www.wildlightphoto.com >>> >>> On Dec 26, 2006, at 7:58 PM, B. D. Colen wrote: >>> >>>> The fact that it's a work around would only be 'relevant' to someone >>>> still >>>> worrying about the 'film v. digital' issue. The point is that it >>>> works. >>>> It's not a 'work around,' it's simply the way flash now works with >>>> cameras. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 12/26/06 10:30 PM, "Douglas Herr" <telyt@earthlink.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> what was this supposed to mean, B. D.? It's a work-around no matter >>>>> who does it and not the real-time TTL flash that works with film >>>>> cameras. >>>>> >>>>> Doug Herr >>>>> Birdman of Sacramento >>>>> http://www.wildlightphoto.com >>>>> >>>>> On Dec 26, 2006, at 6:58 PM, B. D. Colen wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Well, Canon, Nikon, Olympus, and Col. Sanders have figured out these >>>>>> "work >>>>>> arounds," so I assume that the superb German engineers who designed >>>>>> the M8 >>>>>> have as well. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 12/26/06 11:54 AM, "telyt@earthlink.net" <telyt@earthlink.net> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>> M-TTL flash technology ensures natural flash >>>>>>>> illumination through the activation of a >>>>>>>> metering pre-flash. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is the sort of work-around I was thinking of. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Doug Herr >>>>>>> Birdman of Sacramento >>>>>>> http://www.wildlightphoto.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> mail2web - Check your email from the web at >>>>>>> http://mail2web.com/ . >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> mail2web - Check your email from the web at >> http://mail2web.com/ . >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > http://mail2web.com/ . > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information