Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/12/27
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]It's simple B.D., don't shove emotions or attitudes into my words. The reality check is yours, are you projecting your own emotions onto others? Shove your projections elsewhere. Doug Herr Birdman of Sacramento http://www.wildlightphoto.com Original Message: ----------------- From: B. D. Colen bd@bdcolenphoto.com Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 12:48:23 -0500 To: lug@leica-users.org Subject: Re: [Leica] Best flash for M8? I hardly consider that an "accusation," or a slur for that matter - I wonder why you do - Reality Check 101. On 12/27/06 11:04 AM, "telyt@earthlink.net" <telyt@earthlink.net> wrote: > B.D., I don't appreciate being labelled as one who is > "worrying about the 'film-vs.-digital' issue". Please either substantiate > this accusation or keep your planting emotions in others' words to yourself. > > If you cannot substantiate such accusations then don't make them. > Journalism 101. > > Doug Herr > Birdman of Sacramento > http://www.wildlightphoto.com > > Original Message: > ----------------- > From: B. D. Colen bd@bdcolenphoto.com > Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 10:56:31 -0500 > To: lug@leica-users.org > Subject: Re: [Leica] Best flash for M8? > > > Doug, there are people using film, and people using digital. There are also > people who recognize the foolishness of calling the flash system for digital > a "work around," and who recognize that that kind of thinking is based on > the belief that real photography=film - whether or not one has sprung for a > DMR - and anything else is a "work around." Film is film; digital is > digital. There is high speed, add-on lighting designed to work with the > requirements of film, and high speed, add-on lighting designed to work with > the requirements of digital. Designers of things digital no more have to > "work around" issues related to the sensor, than designers of things film > had to "work around" the slit of the focal plane shutter, or the particular > sensitivities of film - they designed FOR them. > > > > > On 12/27/06 8:28 AM, "Douglas Herr" <telyt@earthlink.net> wrote: > >> B.D., being the respected and experienced word-journalist that you are, >> you no doubt know how to research the facts to back up your statements. >> How about you research the LUG archives and point out to us where I >> indicated that I'm "worrying about the 'film-vs.-digital' issue"? >> >> The fact is that there are people using film, there are people using >> digital, some use both and some have used one and not the other. From >> the perspective of many people on this list TTL flash on a digital >> camera is unfamiliar. The camera and flash makers had to work around >> the sensor reflectance issue before TTL flash would work reliably. >> >> Doug Herr >> Birdman of Sacramento >> http://www.wildlightphoto.com >> >> On Dec 26, 2006, at 7:58 PM, B. D. Colen wrote: >> >>> The fact that it's a work around would only be 'relevant' to someone >>> still >>> worrying about the 'film v. digital' issue. The point is that it >>> works. >>> It's not a 'work around,' it's simply the way flash now works with >>> cameras. >>> >>> >>> On 12/26/06 10:30 PM, "Douglas Herr" <telyt@earthlink.net> wrote: >>> >>>> what was this supposed to mean, B. D.? It's a work-around no matter >>>> who does it and not the real-time TTL flash that works with film >>>> cameras. >>>> >>>> Doug Herr >>>> Birdman of Sacramento >>>> http://www.wildlightphoto.com >>>> >>>> On Dec 26, 2006, at 6:58 PM, B. D. Colen wrote: >>>> >>>>> Well, Canon, Nikon, Olympus, and Col. Sanders have figured out these >>>>> "work >>>>> arounds," so I assume that the superb German engineers who designed >>>>> the M8 >>>>> have as well. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 12/26/06 11:54 AM, "telyt@earthlink.net" <telyt@earthlink.net> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>> M-TTL flash technology ensures natural flash >>>>>>> illumination through the activation of a >>>>>>> metering pre-flash. >>>>>> >>>>>> This is the sort of work-around I was thinking of. >>>>>> >>>>>> Doug Herr >>>>>> Birdman of Sacramento >>>>>> http://www.wildlightphoto.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> mail2web - Check your email from the web at >>>>>> http://mail2web.com/ . >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > http://mail2web.com/ . > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. 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