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Subject: [Leica] ISO 2500 and another topic- chimping
From: walt at waltjohnson.com (Walt Johnson)
Date: Wed Nov 15 09:36:42 2006
References: <C180870A.181C7%bd@bdcolenphoto.com> <455B244C.3080708@waltjohnson.com> <4D6EBC06-C666-4996-BE01-0C4791FFA11B@charter.net>

Slododan

Windows in background = bounced 283. (on a Nikon not a Leica). As far as 
freedom of choice I gave up on democracy a long time back. Let's hear it 
for a dictatorship

Walt



Slobodan Dimitrov wrote:

>  Although that didn't seem to work as they placed a  window in the back.
> With digital, there are no hard and fast constants. It's all over the  
> place. A familiar problem with too much freedom of choice.
>
> Slobodan Dimitrov
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 15, 2006, at 6:29 AM, Walt Johnson wrote:
>
>> B.D.
>>
>> Result verification? That may work well for studio set-ups but I'd  
>> not consider it for event work. I've labored under the apparent  
>> misconception a rangefinder allows "chimping" on the run. No mirror  
>> blackout, shutter lag, etc. and what  you see you get. Verifying  
>> exposure either comes with experience or a light meter. I will  admit 
>> your descriptive abilities are as usual, very picturesque. I  can see 
>> someone testing you theory by handing an M8 to a chimp. ;-)
>>
>> Walt
>>
>> B. D. Colen wrote:
>>
>>> Let's not confuse 'result verification' with "chimping." Result  
>>> verification
>>> - the digital equivalent of being using a Polaroid to verify  
>>> exposure, etc.,
>>> is one of the great advantages and joys of digital. The term  
>>> "chimping"
>>> refers to using a digital camera as a chimpanzee presumably would  
>>> if you
>>> handed it a digital camera - shoot, look;shoot, look; shoot, look, ad
>>> infinitum - missing shots all the while.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/15/06 7:29 AM, "Eric" <ericm@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Michiel:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I don't understand what's wrong with chimping.
>>>>> I thought that this is the great advantage of digital, being  able to
>>>>> check your shot right away and correct if nescecary.
>>>>> Oke, if you're doing a wedding or trying to nail down the desicieve
>>>>> moment you should keep your eye on the vf.
>>>>>
>>>> I see nothing wrong with chimping.  Especially at a wedding or  
>>>> when you're
>>>> trying to nail a decisive moment.  Not during the peak action of  
>>>> course, but
>>>> it takes less than a second to look at the histogram every so  
>>>> often to make
>>>> sure what you think you're recording is what you are recording.
>>>>
>>>> I'll admit it.  I've gone from a dark building to bright  sunshine, 
>>>> and
>>>> forgot to change my ISO from 1600 back to 100.  After a few  exposures
>>>> outside, I glanced at the histogram and realized my mistake.  I'm  
>>>> sure it
>>>> won't be the last time, either.
>>>>
>>>> Chiimping is a great way to break the ice with kids.  Even the  
>>>> most camera
>>>> shy kid likes to see pictures of himself, in my experience.   Right 
>>>> before I
>>>> started moving to digital and when I was still using entirely  
>>>> film, a 4 year
>>>> old I was shooting had a hard time believing she couldn't see the  
>>>> results
>>>> right away.  After a few shots, she asked if she could see them  on 
>>>> the
>>>> camera.  :)
>>>>
>>>> I don't use a hand held light meter before every single shot.   Nor 
>>>> do I
>>>> chimp after every shot.  Chimping is just one more tool that's  
>>>> available.
>>>> Like all tools, there is potential to use it both to your  
>>>> advantage or
>>>> disadvantage.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Eric
>>>> http://canid.com/
>>>>
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In reply to: Message from bd at bdcolenphoto.com (B. D. Colen) ([Leica] ISO 2500 and another topic- chimping)
Message from walt at waltjohnson.com (Walt Johnson) ([Leica] ISO 2500 and another topic- chimping)
Message from s.dimitrov at charter.net (Slobodan Dimitrov) ([Leica] ISO 2500 and another topic- chimping)