Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/10/29
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Jeffery, Of course I believe you, but when I see an slide, what I really like is to see it projected on a big screen..., maybe the impression of quality on a monitor could give apparently very nice quality, even in many cases enough, but I don't know if digital could have the same quality as the medium format, I'm sorry, but I don't think so for the moment. Cheers! Luis -----Mensaje original----- De: lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org [mailto:lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org] En nombre de Jeffery Smith Enviado el: domingo, 29 de octubre de 2006 19:01 Para: 'Leica Users Group' Asunto: RE: [Leica] Some questions and thoughts about the M8 Some of the best digital photos I have seen were taken with a Sigma dSLR (from about 4 years ago) with an East German Zeiss M42 lens attached to it via an adaptor. The shooter, John Bean, seems to have bypassed much of the automation and gotten images that, to me, looked like medium format. I think that if Contax had come out with a dSLR that was just a Contax RX II with a chip instead of film, that would have been great. Jeffery Smith New Orleans, LA http://www.400tx.com http://400tx.blogspot.com/ -----Original Message----- From: lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org [mailto:lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Luis Ripoll Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 11:51 AM To: 'Leica Users Group' Subject: RE: [Leica] Some questions and thoughts about the M8 Hi Jeffery, I have no experience with digital and your 3 points seems to me very useful. The other point about the time you can expend seeing the Menu ... completely share with you, I think that when I use digital I'll be uncomfortable, one of the reasons is the Menu, the second reason is the quality desired taking pictures (JPG, RAW...), I'm formed on film, I take a picture and I know that on the film I have the maximum information desirable, the further use I do with it..., I don't know, when I take pictures, I take pictures, after at home I see and analyze everyone. Some one of the LUG has said something I liked, this style of digital use transform the decisive moment to on the un-decisive moment. I think that film will still remain, at least up to I'll be to old to shot any more... I try to ask me if I need digital and why..., and I'm not convinced. Thank you very much for your help, Saludos desde Barcelona Luis -----Mensaje original----- De: lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org [mailto:lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org] En nombre de Jeffery Smith Enviado el: domingo, 29 de octubre de 2006 16:18 Para: 'Leica Users Group' Asunto: RE: [Leica] Some questions and thoughts about the M8 Luis, Right now, the only three things I really look at when a new digital comes our are (1) noise at high ISO, (2) anti-shake (to compensate for high noise at high ISO), and (3) shutter lag. I agree with you on the look of film versus digital. I also like shooting with a camera with only three controls (aperture, shutterspeed, and focus). The menus, buttons, wheels, and complex LCD readouts of digitals have me spending more time looking at my digital camera than the world I'm supposed to be shooting. As a result, I end up shooting on full program mode while giving up the control I had with just three parameters to think about. I like the conventional lenses I alread have for film, and don't like the problems with purple fringing and vignetting I get with digicams. But as the B&W films and developers slowly disappear from view and digital technology improves, I suppose I will slow shift over to digital. I noticed a strange (almost overnight) shift in attitude on the SP forum. Six years ago, black and white film was the standard (and only that Eggelston guy shot color). But when good digital cameras began to gain acceptance, color digital image became acceptable in no time at all. I suppose the only reason that surprises me is that color did not become acceptable when color film was made available to SP photographers. Perhaps when fast, convenient digital bacame acceptable for photojournalism, SP was not far behind. Jeffery Smith New Orleans, LA http://www.400tx.com http://400tx.blogspot.com/ -----Original Message----- From: lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org [mailto:lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Luis Ripoll Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 6:11 AM To: 'Leica Users Group' Subject: [Leica] Some questions and thoughts about the M8 Hi all, I've followed with interest all your comments about, first at all I should say that I've never used digital, and that I'm not very attracted for it, nevertheless the M concept transported to digital could be at least an interesting experience. The first thought I want to explain is that I think that format 4x3 could be perfect for the new users, on my case I've choose my assortment of lenses thinking on the use of every one, I would prefer work with the full format. Frequently I've choose my lenses attending the compactness over the quality, i.e. Summilux 35 vs. the ASPH, it is some difficult for me think that my 50's will be 65's etc..., and to have a 35 I should buy the pretty new 28mm ASPH, but it is 2,8!, maybe with digital we should think more on the ASA capabilities of the digital?...., maybe; as Jeffery says I've started on photography with Panatomic and other slow films, on these years when you shot with a 27 DIN ---> 400 ASA it was something extreme, actually for me I still have this mentality, I very, very rarely rate a film more than 400 ASA. Yesterday I was commenting an e-mail from Alastair telling him that I love too very much the quality on B&W of Plus X or APX100 with Summilux 35, IMHO you can't obtain the same quality on digital. You probably will obtain a very good, even excellent quality, but without the same "touch". I have two questions about the M8's viewfinder, it is improved as it was on the MP and M7 avoiding the flare?, which leeds information is on the viewfinder? I've never liked the viewfinders with a lot of leds. Thanks for your comments Saludos desde Barcelona Luis _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information