[Leica] Some questions and thoughts about the M8

[luisripoll at telefonica.net (Luis Ripoll)]

Hi Jeffery,

I have no experience with digital and your 3 points seems to me very useful.
The other point about the time you can expend seeing the Menu ... completely
share with you, I think that when I use digital I'll be uncomfortable, one
of the reasons is the Menu, the second reason is the quality desired taking
pictures (JPG, RAW...), I'm formed on film, I take a picture and I know that
on the film I have the maximum information desirable, the further use I do
with it..., I don't know, when I take pictures, I take pictures, after at
home I see and analyze everyone. Some one of the LUG has said something I
liked, this style of digital use transform the decisive moment to on the
un-decisive moment.

I think that film will still remain, at least up to I'll be to old to shot
any more... I try to ask me if I need digital and why..., and I'm not
convinced.

Thank you very much for your help,

Saludos desde Barcelona
Luis

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De: lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org] En nombre de
Jeffery Smith
Enviado el: domingo, 29 de octubre de 2006 16:18
Para: 'Leica Users Group'
Asunto: RE: [Leica] Some questions and thoughts about the M8

Luis,

Right now, the only three things I really look at when a new digital comes
our are (1) noise at high ISO, (2) anti-shake (to compensate for high noise
at high ISO), and (3) shutter lag. I agree with you on the look of film
versus digital. I also like shooting with a camera with only three controls
(aperture, shutterspeed, and focus). The menus, buttons, wheels, and complex
LCD readouts of digitals have me spending more time looking at my digital
camera than the world I'm supposed to be shooting. As a result, I end up
shooting on full program mode while giving up the control I had with just
three parameters to think about. I like the conventional lenses I alread
have for film, and don't like the problems with purple fringing and
vignetting I get with digicams. But as the B&W films and developers slowly
disappear from view and digital technology improves, I suppose I will slow
shift over to digital.

I noticed a strange (almost overnight) shift in attitude on the SP forum.
Six years ago, black and white film was the standard (and only that
Eggelston guy shot color). But when good digital cameras began to gain
acceptance, color digital image became acceptable in no time at all. I
suppose the only reason that surprises me is that color did not become
acceptable when color film was made available to SP photographers. Perhaps
when fast, convenient digital bacame acceptable for photojournalism, SP was
not far behind.

Jeffery Smith
New Orleans, LA
http://www.400tx.com
http://400tx.blogspot.com/



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From: lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Luis
Ripoll
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 6:11 AM
To: 'Leica Users Group'
Subject: [Leica] Some questions and thoughts about the M8


Hi all,
 
I've followed with interest all your comments about, first at all I should
say that I've never used digital, and that I'm not very attracted for it,
nevertheless the M concept transported to digital could be at least an
interesting experience. 
 
The first thought I want to explain is that I think that format 4x3 could be
perfect for the new users, on my case I've choose my assortment of lenses
thinking on the use of every one, I would prefer work with the full format.
Frequently I've choose my lenses attending the compactness over the quality,
i.e. Summilux 35 vs. the ASPH, it is some difficult for me think that my
50's will be 65's etc..., and to have a 35 I should buy the pretty new 28mm
ASPH, but it is 2,8!, maybe with digital we should think more on the ASA
capabilities of the digital?...., maybe; as Jeffery says I've started on
photography with Panatomic and other slow films, on these years when you
shot with a 27 DIN ---> 400 ASA it was something extreme, actually for me I
still have this mentality, I very, very rarely  rate a film more than 400
ASA.
 
Yesterday I was commenting an e-mail from Alastair telling him that I love
too very much the quality on B&W of Plus X or APX100 with Summilux 35, IMHO
you can't obtain the same quality on digital. You probably will obtain a
very good, even excellent quality, but without the same "touch".
 
I have two questions about the M8's viewfinder, it is improved as it was on
the MP and M7 avoiding the flare?, which leeds information is on the
viewfinder? I've never liked the viewfinders with a lot of leds.
 
Thanks for your comments
 
Saludos desde Barcelona
Luis
 
 

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