Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/09/13

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Subject: [Leica] Re: Video of M8 (Meaningless comparisons)
From: scott at adrenaline.com (Scott McLoughlin)
Date: Wed Sep 13 16:35:06 2006
References: <200609121822.k8CIKt8S032516@server1.waverley.reid.org> <001d01c6d6c1$12a87560$8227ea04@oemcomputer> <82c9dd70609121631o801c5een9a046a4138a83035@mail.gmail.com> <45075FA1.7000506@adrenaline.com> <FE39E06F-C488-4D33-B3DF-70DF0E107D6A@mac.com> <7.0.1.0.0.20060913104559.01b1eec0@northcoastphotos.com>

Sure, that's all true. I meant just a technical point on overall
sensor size and thus "pixel size"  when  comparing a 10 megapixel
P&S with a small sensor size to the DMR or the Nikon D200 or
whatever.

As in a prior post, I don't yet find the digi P&S attractive to me,
but that could certainly change sometime in the future. For now,
my D200, typically with a 35/2, does it for me on the digital
front.  But that's just me.

Scott

Gary Todoroff wrote:

> George - the LUG has meaningfully compared M's to Yaschica T's, 
> Ricohs, and other point and shoots. Meaningless comparison? I've 
> compared my Leica M's to every other camera I've ever owned. Usually 
> the Leica comes out ahead. But the Olympus E-330, which can also be 
> used as a P&S, represents an advance in photography that eclipses 
> almost anything the M can do, digital or not. I am extremely 
> disappointed in Leica's approach to digital.
>
> I love Leica lenses. However their approach to cameras has been like 
> trying to release a new 1957 Chevy with a more powerful engine, but 
> still with a manual choke, no seat belts, and a clock that stops after 
> about 20,000 miles - fun for an nostalgic cruise with the top down. 
> Leica has ignored the creative capability of modern digital. They used 
> to be at the forefront of photographic equipment and systems. They 
> appear to have abandoned the legacy that made great and creative 
> cameras, and now concentrate strictly on "legacy" as an end in itself.
>
> And the M8 price is WAY out of line for a computer box that keeps out 
> light. I predict that the M8 may indeed hold its value - but strictly 
> as a collectible someday because Leica sold so few of them.
>
> Gary Todoroff
>
> P.S. to Scott - it's also as "meaningless" to compare the "dinky P&S 
> sensor" as it was to compare the dinky PC computer to mainframe 
> computers 20 years ago. How many mainframes have you seen lately? 
> Change is hard - don't dismiss it with a blanket claim of "meaningless".
>
> At 08:00 AM 09/13/06, you wrote:
>
>> It's also meaningless to compare an M anything to a P&S anything -
>> whether digital or film.
>>
>> Regards,
>> George Lottermoser
>> george@imagist.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 12, 2006, at 8:32 PM, Scott McLoughlin wrote:
>>
>>> It's meaningless to compare a dinky P&S sensor to the
>>> one in the DMR.
>>
>>
>>
>> _
>
>
>
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Message from imagist3 at mac.com (Lottermoser George) ([Leica] Re: Video of M8)
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