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Subject: [Leica] So how do our friends at Solms handle their customers?
From: rangefinder at screengang.com (Didier Ludwig)
Date: Sat Sep 2 14:02:04 2006
References: <C11DD52D.1EF1%philippe.orlent@duvalguillaumecorporate.com> <82F0640D-A962-4B5D-94AB-F1861DB85C00@pandora.be>

Bonsoir Philippe

You can't complain about our friends in Solms. hk supplies, a known 
greymarket dealer, is not a trade partner of them. That's all. Out of 
dealership/warranty chain. But your MP will hopefully not need any warranty 
repair anyway, just keep pushin it's button... :-) 

What I never understand is - how do these dealers get the stuff so cheap? I 
still do not understood how grey market works. Leica says this camera left 
their factory in 2004. So who bought it? 

I have once read in a post from a fellow lugger from far east, that some 
unlucky serial numbers are difficult to sell in Asia (where serial # have a 
much bigger importance to the buyer than here), and are sold to europe/usa 
via grey market and ebay. But this alone can't fill that giant grey market 
especially in Hong Kong.

Didier



>I Couldn't resist to show this one to you all: a fine example of  
>after sale customer service...
>
>>------ Forwarded Message
>>From: Philippe Orlent <philippe.orlent@duvalguillaumecorporate.com>
>>Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 11:52:47 +0200
>>To: "Gyimes von, Andrea" <Andrea.von.Gyimes@leica-camera.com>
>>Conversation: AW: 5 year warranty extension Leica MP
>>Subject: Re: AW: 5 year warranty extension Leica MP
>>
>>True. Very hard to prove that, although I received the regular  
>>packaging and
>>its content(s) fully sealed. I also tested the camera extensively  
>>(meter,
>>shutter times, VF/RF) these last weeks, and it is in perfect shape.
>>The price thing and grey market issue is another matter, I agree.  
>>Very hard
>>to resist such competitive prices, though. :-)
>>
>>I suppose I'll just have to be happy with my MP as it is, and  
>>without the
>>warranty?
>>
>>Still a Leica afficionado and looking forward to what nice things  
>>Leica will
>>unveil at Photokina,
>>Philippe Orlent
>>
>>Owning an M4-2, an MP and a Digilux 2. And some lenses ofcourse.
>>
>>
>>
>>>From: "Gyimes von, Andrea" <Andrea.von.Gyimes@leica-camera.com>
>>>Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 11:41:59 +0200
>>>To: Philippe Orlent <philippe.orlent@duvalguillaumecorporate.com>
>>>Conversation: 5 year warranty extension Leica MP
>>>Subject: AW: 5 year warranty extension Leica MP
>>>
>>>Dear Mr. Orlent,
>>>
>>>Thank you for your prompt reply.
>>>
>>>The warranty should always be duly filled-in, including the  
>>>signature and
>>>stamp of the dealer.
>>>
>>>Furthermore, checking on Hong Kong Supplies we have found, that  
>>>this dealer is
>>>not an authorized Leica dealer. He is obviously buying grey  
>>>products and is
>>>offering these at very low prices on Internet. He is not supplied  
>>>by our
>>>official agency in Hong Kong.
>>>
>>>How can we be sure that the product which Hong Kong Supplies has  
>>>sold to you
>>>is a brand-new item and not a used one?
>>>According to the serial number, the MP left our factory in 2004.
>>>
>>>Looking forward to hearing from you again, I remain
>>>
>>>Mit freundlichen Gr??en / With best regards
>>>
>>>Andrea von Gyimes
>>>Leica Camera AG
>>>Oskar-Barnack-Strasse 11, D-35606 Solms
>>>Phone: +49-6442-208.343 / Fax: +49-6442-208.360
>>>e-mail: andrea.von.gyimes@leica-camera.com
>>>
>>>http://www.leica-camera.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
>>>Von: Philippe Orlent
>>>[mailto:philippe.orlent@duvalguillaumecorporate.com]
>>>Gesendet: Freitag, 1. September 2006 10:49
>>>An: Gyimes von, Andrea
>>>Betreff: Re: 5 year warranty extension Leica MP
>>>
>>>
>>>Thank you for your reply,
>>>
>>>I'd ofcourse include the warranty card. It's filled in on the  
>>>following
>>>spots:
>>>1) Registration page: an adhesive label with Verk.Nr. And Fabr.Nr.
>>>2) Owner's page: my coordinates
>>>3) Purchase confirmation: Model, Nr., Date of sale, but NO  
>>>Dealer's stamp
>>>and signature: I suppose this latter is replaced by the HK  
>>>Supplies invoice.
>>>
>>>Is this OK?
>>>And where should I send warranty card and invoicce?
>>>
>>>Sincerely,
>>>Philippe Orlent
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>From: "Gyimes von, Andrea" <Andrea.von.Gyimes@leica-camera.com>
>>>>Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 10:30:45 +0200
>>>>To: <philippe.orlent@duvalguillaumecorporate.com>
>>>>Cc: "Wilfried Van Asbroeck (E-Mail 2)"  
>>>><wilfried.vanasbroeck@debeukelaer.be>
>>>>Conversation: 5 year warranty extension Leica MP
>>>>Subject: 5 year warranty extension Leica MP
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Dear Mr. Orlent,
>>>>
>>>>Our agency in Belgium, Messrs. De Beukelear, has transmitted to  
>>>>us your
>>>>inquiry regarding  the 5 year warranty extension of your Leica MP.
>>>>
>>>>For the registration of the extended warranty, we would also need  
>>>>the
>>>>original
>>>>filled-in warranty card. Therefore, may I kindly ask you to get  
>>>>in contact
>>>>with Hong Kong Supplies and to ask for the warranty card which is  
>>>>always
>>>>supplied with a new Leica camera.
>>>>
>>>>If you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to  
>>>>contact me
>>>>again.
>>>>
>>>>Mit freundlichen Gr??en / With best regards
>>>>
>>>>Andrea von Gyimes
>>>>Leica Camera AG
>>>>Oskar-Barnack-Strasse 11, D-35606 Solms
>>>>Phone: +49-6442-208.343 / Fax: +49-6442-208.360
>>>>e-mail: andrea.von.gyimes@leica-camera.com
>>>>
>>>>http://www.leica-camera.com
>>
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