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Subject: [Leica] Photographers Formulary Rapid Fix
From: jsmith342 at cox.net (Jeffery Smith)
Date: Wed Mar 1 18:14:43 2006

I agree with you there. Unless the film I shot was 36 images of my cat as a
test roll, I'd rather not use the film as a guinea pig for
possibly-defective chemicals.

Jeffery Smith
New Orleans, LA
http://www.400tx.com




-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Henning
Wulff
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 6:00 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: RE: [Leica] Photographers Formulary Rapid Fix


The white stuff is a precipitate that comes out 
of solution if the concentrate has been stored 
too cold for a while. You can try to heat up the 
concentrate to 60? C or so and stir it to 
re-dissolve it, but since I can't remember right 
now what the precipitate is, I can't remember 
whether it re-dissolves or actually changes 
chemical composition as it precipitates and 
becomes insoluble, but I seem to recall having 
done this at one time.

Now when I see something like that I toss it, as 
the hassle and possible miserable results aren't 
worth it versus the cost for new fixer.

At 4:13 PM -0600 3/1/06, Jeffery Smith wrote:
>I don't agitate with the fix like I do with the developer. Since the 
>fixation is relatively short in duration, I could start being more 
>compulsive about regular agitation.
>
>After the fixing is done, I pour it out the fix and rinse with a hose 
>going with low flow through the Paterson tank - 30 minutes.
>
>I then put distilled water + PhotoFlo for a minute.
>
>Then they hang in a vertical drying with filtered room temp air sent 
>through. I would use the Durst forced air dryer (which takes the film 
>while still on the reel) instead, but I'm trying to get rid of the curl 
>as the Nikon scanner I use doesn't flatten the film well itself.
>
>Jeffery Smith
>New Orleans, LA
>http://www.400tx.com
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org
>[mailto:lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of 
>Frank Filippone
>Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 3:51 PM
>To: Leica Users Group
>Subject: RE: [Leica] Photographers Formulary Rapid Fix
>
>
>White spots... interesting.....
>
>OK... Now more questions on technique..
>How often do you agitate in the fix?  ( Things do not stick if they are 
>constantly in motion...)  ( I cheat by using my JOBO....)
>
>How do you wash, apply Phoho-Flo etc?  Tell us your procedure.....
>
>Still no opinion on the dust possibility?  Could something have 
>happened and you get a dust storm the day you developed this roll?  
>Vacuum cleaning? Someone running a tile cutting saw, etc... Something 
>that is human or nature caused that creates an inordinate amount of 
>dust....  ( we do in California... I fix that by not developing until 
>the evening, when things calm down a bunch..)
>
>Frank Filippone
>red735i@earthlink.net
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: lug-bounces+red735i=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
>[mailto:lug-bounces+red735i=earthlink.net@leica-users.org]On Behalf Of 
>Jeffery Smith
>Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 1:29 PM
>To: 'Leica Users Group'
>Subject: RE: [Leica] Photographers Formulary Rapid Fix
>
>
>The scanned negatives are covered with tiny white spots, so it is 
>definitely something on the film, not pinholes. Two of the three 
>solutions I put on the film were not completely dissolved. The borax 
>bath in divided D-76 doesn't stay completely dissolved, but borox is so 
>soluble in water, it would have come off in the rinse. I don't know 
>what the cloudiness in the fixer was, but I didn't use distilled water 
>(there is virtually none in the city right now...I went to five stores 
>and found a total of 2 gallons). I'm thinking it is the cloudy stuff in 
>the fix. I'll try distilled and make up the solution a few hours before 
>I use it. I wish I had a magnetic stirrer.
>
>Jeffery Smith
>New Orleans, LA
>http://www.400tx.com
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org
>[mailto:lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of 
>Frank Filippone
>Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 3:16 PM
>To: Leica Users Group
>Subject: RE: [Leica] Photographers Formulary Rapid Fix
>
>
>Are you using TF4?
>
>Filtering will probably work.... dilution with distilled water will 
>help. But more or less it should be in solution.  there should not be a 
>precipitate.
>
>Now a better question... why do you have spots on your negatives?  You 
>wash after fix, so it is not particles of Fixer that is causing the 
>spots by adhering to the film.......  What kind of film?  Is there 
>something else that is causing these spots?  Dust on your drying area?
>
>Or do you suspect a chemical action from this fix that is causing 
>pinholes in your film?
>
>Frank Filippone
>red735i@earthlink.net
>
>
>
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