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Subject: [Leica] Macro Comparison Leica V. Yashica
From: philippe.orlent at pandora.be (Philippe Orlent)
Date: Wed Apr 13 03:36:52 2005

Some similar ones here:

http://users.telenet.be/philippe.orlent/website/


> From: eric <leica_korenman@hotmail.com>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 06:28:17 -0400
> To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Macro Comparison Leica  V. Yashica
> 
> Actually one of my favorites - but freaks out my wife.
> Eric
> 
> --------------------------------------------------
> www.faneuil.net
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Philippe Orlent" <philippe.orlent@pandora.be>
> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 6:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Macro Comparison Leica V. Yashica
> 
> 
>> Nice, but I like this one even better:
>> 
>> http://www.faneuil.net/2004/slides/01.html
>> 
>> 
>>> From: eric <leica_korenman@hotmail.com>
>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>>> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 06:24:31 -0400
>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Macro Comparison Leica  V. Yashica
>>> 
>>> just my 2 cents - trying to reuse an old image I guess:
>>> 100 macro elmar wide open:
>>> http://www.faneuil.net/2004/slides/05.html
>>> (warning: artsy shot of crying kid)
>>> 
>>> Eric
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Mark Rabiner" <mark@rabinergroup.com>
>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 1:11 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Macro Comparison Leica V. Yashica
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 4/12/05 9:33 AM, "Douglas Sharp" <douglas.sharp@gmx.de> typed:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Only one third Leica and no Rollei at all. It may , however, be of
>>>>> interest to those of us who like optical excellence whatever the source
>>>>> may be.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2 full-frame shots: taken with a Macro-Elmar 4/100mm and a
>>>>> Yashica ML 2,8/55mm Macro both at f8, Canon 20D at ISO 100, tripod
>>>>> mounted, daylight.
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/album150/Leicaf8_full_frame
>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/album150/CY_full_frame
>>>>> 2 centre crops from the same shots
>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/album150/Leicaf8
>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/album150/CY_f8
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think that the resolution of the Yashica is superior but the clour
>>>>> rendition of the Leica is better (richer).
>>>>> Just to make sure that the lenses were comparable they were both
>>>>> cleaned, front and rear elements, before taking these.
>>>>> I ran the test through 5 times and got the same results for f8 and for
>>>>> other apertures, refocussing each test series to eliminate any possible
>>>>> focussing errors, and picked the best of each run. Maybe I got a duff
>>>>> Elmar, this difference in quality is surprising to say the least.
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Douglas
>>>>> 
>>>>> BTW it's a Miners Safety Lamp
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Boy oh Boy Doug and yous guys!
>>>> 
>>>> The thin plane of focus on the macro Elmar shot is at the far right edge
>>>> of
>>>> the frame.
>>>> Its certainly to the right of the "S" of "lamps" and the "8" of the "
>>>> B/28"
>>>> I'm not even sure that true point or total plane of focus is even IN the
>>>> frame.
>>>> It just might be on the right half of the "8" itself but my hunch is its
>>>> a
>>>> tad in front of it. Towards us.
>>>> In the air.
>>>> 
>>>> The focus with the Yashica shot is further left on the "P" of "lamps".
>>>> The "m" is behind the plane of focus
>>>> And the "S" is in front of it.
>>>> 
>>>> So if we then look at THAT area in the macro Elmar shot we think its
>>>> "sharper" then the macro Elmar. If we didn't look at the rest of the
>>>> shot.
>>>> It's not where the very narrow plane of focus IS on that shot.
>>>> It's way to the left of it by the distance of 2 or 3 letters or numbers
>>>> in
>>>> the shot.
>>>> 
>>>> The DOF in such a shot is about an 8th of an inch as we can see.
>>>>    a shot on a curve like this illustrates such a thing.
>>>> 
>>>> I cant believe this crazy test has got all you guys fooled!  :)
>>>> 
>>>> On a test like this you'd have to bracket your focusing to make them
>>>> both
>>>> match up. But it could easily be done with some bracketing. You barely
>>>> breath on the lens to change the focus by several millimeters. You just
>>>> look
>>>> at it funny and it will shift a full letter over.
>>>> :)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Mark Rabiner
>>>> Photography
>>>> Portland Oregon
>>>> http://rabinergroup.com/
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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