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Subject: [Leica] Macro Comparison Leica V. Yashica
From: leica_korenman at hotmail.com (eric)
Date: Wed Apr 13 03:28:19 2005
References: <BE82C0A0.1DE8%philippe.orlent@pandora.be>

Actually one of my favorites - but freaks out my wife.
Eric

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www.faneuil.net

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Philippe Orlent" <philippe.orlent@pandora.be>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 6:27 AM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Macro Comparison Leica V. Yashica


> Nice, but I like this one even better:
>
> http://www.faneuil.net/2004/slides/01.html
>
>
>> From: eric <leica_korenman@hotmail.com>
>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 06:24:31 -0400
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Macro Comparison Leica  V. Yashica
>>
>> just my 2 cents - trying to reuse an old image I guess:
>> 100 macro elmar wide open:
>> http://www.faneuil.net/2004/slides/05.html
>> (warning: artsy shot of crying kid)
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mark Rabiner" <mark@rabinergroup.com>
>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 1:11 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Macro Comparison Leica V. Yashica
>>
>>
>>> On 4/12/05 9:33 AM, "Douglas Sharp" <douglas.sharp@gmx.de> typed:
>>>
>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>
>>>> Only one third Leica and no Rollei at all. It may , however, be of
>>>> interest to those of us who like optical excellence whatever the source
>>>> may be.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2 full-frame shots: taken with a Macro-Elmar 4/100mm and a
>>>> Yashica ML 2,8/55mm Macro both at f8, Canon 20D at ISO 100, tripod
>>>> mounted, daylight.
>>>>
>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/album150/Leicaf8_full_frame
>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/album150/CY_full_frame
>>>> 2 centre crops from the same shots
>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/album150/Leicaf8
>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/album150/CY_f8
>>>>
>>>> I think that the resolution of the Yashica is superior but the clour
>>>> rendition of the Leica is better (richer).
>>>> Just to make sure that the lenses were comparable they were both
>>>> cleaned, front and rear elements, before taking these.
>>>> I ran the test through 5 times and got the same results for f8 and for
>>>> other apertures, refocussing each test series to eliminate any possible
>>>> focussing errors, and picked the best of each run. Maybe I got a duff
>>>> Elmar, this difference in quality is surprising to say the least.
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Douglas
>>>>
>>>> BTW it's a Miners Safety Lamp
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Boy oh Boy Doug and yous guys!
>>>
>>> The thin plane of focus on the macro Elmar shot is at the far right edge
>>> of
>>> the frame.
>>> Its certainly to the right of the "S" of "lamps" and the "8" of the "
>>> B/28"
>>> I'm not even sure that true point or total plane of focus is even IN the
>>> frame.
>>> It just might be on the right half of the "8" itself but my hunch is its 
>>> a
>>> tad in front of it. Towards us.
>>> In the air.
>>>
>>> The focus with the Yashica shot is further left on the "P" of "lamps".
>>> The "m" is behind the plane of focus
>>> And the "S" is in front of it.
>>>
>>> So if we then look at THAT area in the macro Elmar shot we think its
>>> "sharper" then the macro Elmar. If we didn't look at the rest of the 
>>> shot.
>>> It's not where the very narrow plane of focus IS on that shot.
>>> It's way to the left of it by the distance of 2 or 3 letters or numbers 
>>> in
>>> the shot.
>>>
>>> The DOF in such a shot is about an 8th of an inch as we can see.
>>>    a shot on a curve like this illustrates such a thing.
>>>
>>> I cant believe this crazy test has got all you guys fooled!  :)
>>>
>>> On a test like this you'd have to bracket your focusing to make them 
>>> both
>>> match up. But it could easily be done with some bracketing. You barely
>>> breath on the lens to change the focus by several millimeters. You just
>>> look
>>> at it funny and it will shift a full letter over.
>>> :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mark Rabiner
>>> Photography
>>> Portland Oregon
>>> http://rabinergroup.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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