Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2005/02/02
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]It is one of the best photos you've ever posted - and anyone who told you it was a bad posting doesn't know a photograph from a cave painting! I don?t know how I missed that one, but it is fabulous. And all that color says is "night time with some artificial lighting." It's no where near as "off" as the shot under discussion. As to the point of posting - I've always figured we post so that we can get some feedback - positive, negative, and hopefully constructive - from somewhere other than from the mirror. While we may not agree with the comments, ultimately any that are honest may end up being helpful. But as to the guy in the caf? - as I said early on, I see it as a miss and not a hit. A guy sits at a table looking down. So? Compare that to Bill Clough's classic, "Madison," where a guy looking down also occupies the right hand side of the frame. In Clough's image, as in this one, we can't see that the guy is looking at a newspaper. But in Clough's photo the left hand side of the frame is occupied by an angelic Shirley Temple look-alike glancing off to the left, out of the frame. So one looks at that image and immediately wonders, 'WHAT is going on here?' The caf? man photo, color aside, lacks anything to make one - well to make me, at least - want to ask that question. And without the question, there's nothing there. But let's suppose for a moment that we could see the newspaper. Again, we have to ask why we care about this particular guy reading the newspaper? Is there something else in the photo that provides some interest, some humor, some irony, some pathos? As I think I wrote before, had there been a sign somewhere behind the guy with words to the effect of "No Newspaper Reading Allowed," that would give us something. But as a photo of a guy reading a newspaper in an orange caf?.... B. D. -----Original Message----- From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of SonC@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 11:30 AM To: lug@leica-users.org Subject: Re: [Leica] My attitude about Colo(u)r In a message dated 2/2/2005 10:02:10 A.M. Central Standard Time, bdcolen@earthlink.net writes: >>Certainly pointing this out in a pleasant, constructive manner is >>preferable to jumping on someone's head ;-), but not pointing it out >>doesn't do anyone any favors.. Part of my earlier point was that he commented in the first posting that what attracted him was the color; I concluded he meant it to look that way, and that the capture was significant to him in other ways than color balance. Personally I usually take a different tack, especially since I have acquired skills with PhotoShop. Since there is no standard that can make our appreciation and judgement the same as one another regarding color, I don't comment on it in someone's work. BD continues: >>>.unless, of course, the idea of posting >>photos here is to post them with the expectation that we will always >>receive universal and resounding praise. And maybe that is the idea. >>:-) I like it when I get praise, and I'm disappointed when someone pans my pix, especially when they don't say why. I've got to tell you that this picture got such mixed reviews it would make your head spin. _http://www.sonc.com/man_at_festival.htm_ (http://www.sonc.com/man_at_festival.htm) It too was shot on daylight film, under tungsten light; some people responded that it was the best picture they ever saw from me, and a couple said it was the worst POS I could have posted. Go figure. I still like the shot of the guy in the Paris cafe. Regards, Sonny http://www.sonc.com Natchitoches, Louisiana Oldest continuous settlement in La Louisiane ?galit?, libert?, crawfish _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information