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Subject: [Leica] My attitude about Colo(u)r
From: bdcolen at earthlink.net (B. D. Colen)
Date: Wed Feb 2 07:55:27 2005

All of this, in terms of its observations about the subjectivity of our
observation of color, and the ways in which color varies from film to
film, roll to roll, digital camera to digital camera is, of course,
absolutely true. However. That doesn't mean that some of us don't, from
time to time, totally 'blow' color balance, ending up with yellow/orange
glow on in door shots, heavy blue cast out doors, etc. I know that I
rarely, if ever, intended to have my image look 'weird' in this way, and
if someone wants to say, 'hey, what happened to the color?!,' I'm far
more likely to say 'I blew it,' than to take offense. We're not talking
here, after all - or we weren't anyway, about a few degrees of
maladjusted color temperature - the image in question was weary off.

Certainly pointing this out in a pleasant, constructive manner is
preferable to jumping on someone's head ;-), but not pointing it out
doesn't do anyone any favors...unless, of course, the idea of posting
photos here is to post them with the expectation that we will always
receive universal and resounding praise. And maybe that is the idea. :-)

-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
SonC@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 9:35 AM
To: lug@leica-users.org
Subject: [Leica] My attitude about Colo(u)r


This subjective topic  depends on a standard that is in itself
subjective, 
and that is how someone sees colo(u)r.  I made a discovery when  I
bought a 
monocular that one of my eyes sees color slightly warmer than the
other.  If 
that's the case, how many of us see a scene the same way?
 
I have two monitors on this computer, and two on the one at home, and
none  
of the four are actually fully in sync with the others.  If that's the
case, 
(and I have them carefully tuned) how do the shots look on the other
coupla 
thousand monitors on this list?
 
We buy film, and only a minute sample of us by all our stock for the
year 
from the same batch number.  Colo(u)r papers come in batches too,
chemicals as 
well.
 
 We process our own, and just as we are about to pour out the
developer, the 
phone rings, we hesitate for just ten seconds and the   balance has
changed 
on the entire film.
 
We  take a roll somewhere, and the lab guy, takes a slug of coffee
instead 
of checking the chemicals and we are 1000 degrees Kelvin off.
 
Oh!  You are digital with auto white balance?  Which algorithm  does the

manufacturer use to set awb?   Even virtually identical  cameras like
the 
Panasonic LC5 and the Digilux 1 see colo(u)r differently.
 
Oh, just correct in PhotoShop!  I get it.  Lets see, go to  levels, get
the 
white eyedropper, find something white in the scene.   Click, ouch!
everything 
went Blue!
 
Well, when all else fails, you can take it to BW.  I have done that,
several 
times.
 
Finally (you were longing for me to say that, huh?)  with all the
variables, 
I don't think any of us can crit another's work on the basis of
colo(u)r, 
with the possible exception of shooting daylight with a tungsten  film.

 
Filters?  The only one I care about is an Neutral Density .9 so I can
shoot  
800 Press outside.
 
At  ease.

Regards, 
Sonny
http://www.sonc.com
Natchitoches,  Louisiana
Oldest continuous settlement in La Louisiane
?galit?, libert?,  crawfish


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