Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2005/02/02
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]All of this, in terms of its observations about the subjectivity of our observation of color, and the ways in which color varies from film to film, roll to roll, digital camera to digital camera is, of course, absolutely true. However. That doesn't mean that some of us don't, from time to time, totally 'blow' color balance, ending up with yellow/orange glow on in door shots, heavy blue cast out doors, etc. I know that I rarely, if ever, intended to have my image look 'weird' in this way, and if someone wants to say, 'hey, what happened to the color?!,' I'm far more likely to say 'I blew it,' than to take offense. We're not talking here, after all - or we weren't anyway, about a few degrees of maladjusted color temperature - the image in question was weary off. Certainly pointing this out in a pleasant, constructive manner is preferable to jumping on someone's head ;-), but not pointing it out doesn't do anyone any favors...unless, of course, the idea of posting photos here is to post them with the expectation that we will always receive universal and resounding praise. And maybe that is the idea. :-) -----Original Message----- From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of SonC@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 9:35 AM To: lug@leica-users.org Subject: [Leica] My attitude about Colo(u)r This subjective topic depends on a standard that is in itself subjective, and that is how someone sees colo(u)r. I made a discovery when I bought a monocular that one of my eyes sees color slightly warmer than the other. If that's the case, how many of us see a scene the same way? I have two monitors on this computer, and two on the one at home, and none of the four are actually fully in sync with the others. If that's the case, (and I have them carefully tuned) how do the shots look on the other coupla thousand monitors on this list? We buy film, and only a minute sample of us by all our stock for the year from the same batch number. Colo(u)r papers come in batches too, chemicals as well. We process our own, and just as we are about to pour out the developer, the phone rings, we hesitate for just ten seconds and the balance has changed on the entire film. We take a roll somewhere, and the lab guy, takes a slug of coffee instead of checking the chemicals and we are 1000 degrees Kelvin off. Oh! You are digital with auto white balance? Which algorithm does the manufacturer use to set awb? Even virtually identical cameras like the Panasonic LC5 and the Digilux 1 see colo(u)r differently. Oh, just correct in PhotoShop! I get it. Lets see, go to levels, get the white eyedropper, find something white in the scene. Click, ouch! everything went Blue! Well, when all else fails, you can take it to BW. I have done that, several times. Finally (you were longing for me to say that, huh?) with all the variables, I don't think any of us can crit another's work on the basis of colo(u)r, with the possible exception of shooting daylight with a tungsten film. Filters? The only one I care about is an Neutral Density .9 so I can shoot 800 Press outside. At ease. Regards, Sonny http://www.sonc.com Natchitoches, Louisiana Oldest continuous settlement in La Louisiane ?galit?, libert?, crawfish _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information