[Leica] Digital back

[s.jessurun95 at chello.nl (animal)]

of course it would ,
 the image would show moire and other defects in some areas at it,s full
size.(left lower side)
yes i know it is a manufacturers release and could be doctored to look like
an unsharpened unprocessed a lot piece of advertising.
and as such would not be admissable in a court of law as proof of quality.
but with an open mind and knowledge of the various problem areas it might be
reveiling.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
To: "'Leica Users Group'" <lug@leica-users.org>
Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 4:15 PM
Subject: RE: [Leica] Digital back


> No, I didn't Simon. But a larger size image wouldn't alter the relevance
> of any of my comments.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
> animal
> Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 6:47 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Digital back
>
>
> Just curious did you receive the
> 3876x2580  28.6 meg version ?
>
> simon
>
>
> > Well, Feli -
> > 1. I don't see color fringing around thin tree branches or visible
> > moir? problems in the $240 throwaway digital p&S I bought my wife for
> > Christmas two years ago. And I certainly don't see them in the images
> > I get from my E-1 - or the images I got from my E20 2. What's the big
> > deal about being able to adjust sharpening level in camera? I'll save
> > you having to reply - there is none. All the major cameras offer it
> > -as to many of the point and shoots.
> >
> > 3. Highlights not being clipped is a feature of exposing properly, not
>
> > some magic in the firmware.
> >
> > 4. I should hope there's no noise in the blacks at 100 iso, or at 400
> > for that matter if properly exposed.
> >
> > The bottom line is that this is a crappy tourist snapshot that could
> > have been taken by any mediocre point and shoot set at a low iso, if
> > properly exposed. And to top it off, it's a basically evenly lit
> > scene, which makes the whole thing even easier to pull off.
> >
> > The irony, of course, is that if this was an image being offered by
> > the Epson folks as an example of the magic worked by the RD-1, all the
>
> > Leicaholics on the list would be raising precisely the points I'm
> > raising.
> >
> > I'm not saying that this is a bad digital image - I'm just saying that
>
> > it neither proves, nor even hints at, virtually anything.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
> > [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf
> > Of feli
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 1:51 PM
> > To: Leica Users Group; lug@leica-users.org
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Digital back
> >
> >
> >
> > >1 - Pardon my obvious lack of understanding, but what is it that
> > >distinguishes this tourist snap shot from any other tourist snap shot
>
> > >taken with any 3mgp digital point and shoot?
> >
> > A couple of things:
> >
> > a) I don't see any color fringing around the thin tree branches and
> > there are no visible moire problems. (look at the shot with the
> > wreath. Dark green leaves against a white background) Given the fact
> > that Leica decided not to use a AA filter (or a waek one) infront of
> > the chip this is a good thing. Kodak didn't use one on their SLR and
> > has big problems with that.
> >
> > b) Looks like you can turn of the sharpen for the jpegs. Also a good
> > thing. Not sure if this was a in camera Jpeg conversion, but I don't
> > see any compression artifacts.
> >
> > c) Highlights don't look clipped. I don't see any holes or grey
> > blothces in the specular component. Roll off into the highlights looks
>
> > good.
> >
> > d) I'm guessing this is 100asa, because I don't really see any noise
> > in the blacks.
> >
> > e) Unless this was post balanced, it appears that white balance works
> > well. Colors are clean, white and black neutral.
> >
> >
> > >2 - Perhaps there's something wrong with my computer or browser, but
> > >when I right-click on the image, in order to get information about it
>
> > >and save it to my desktop as a tiff, nothing comes up, leading me to
> > >believe that Leica doesn't want this image downloaded and examined
> > >carefully in Photoshop. Am I missing something here? B.D.
> >
> > You could examine it all you want in Photoshop, but since they are
> > either JPEG or TIFF you really won't learn a whole lot more than
> > looking at it in your browser. If you really wanted to dig into it, it
>
> > would have to be a RAW file.
> >
> >
> >
> > Feli
> >
> >
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