[Leica] Digital back

[bdcolen at earthlink.net (B. D. Colen)]

No, I didn't Simon. But a larger size image wouldn't alter the relevance
of any of my comments.

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From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
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animal
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 6:47 PM
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Subject: Re: [Leica] Digital back


Just curious did you receive the
3876x2580  28.6 meg version ?

simon


> Well, Feli -
> 1. I don't see color fringing around thin tree branches or visible 
> moir? problems in the $240 throwaway digital p&S I bought my wife for 
> Christmas two years ago. And I certainly don't see them in the images 
> I get from my E-1 - or the images I got from my E20 2. What's the big 
> deal about being able to adjust sharpening level in camera? I'll save 
> you having to reply - there is none. All the major cameras offer it 
> -as to many of the point and shoots.
>
> 3. Highlights not being clipped is a feature of exposing properly, not

> some magic in the firmware.
>
> 4. I should hope there's no noise in the blacks at 100 iso, or at 400 
> for that matter if properly exposed.
>
> The bottom line is that this is a crappy tourist snapshot that could 
> have been taken by any mediocre point and shoot set at a low iso, if 
> properly exposed. And to top it off, it's a basically evenly lit 
> scene, which makes the whole thing even easier to pull off.
>
> The irony, of course, is that if this was an image being offered by 
> the Epson folks as an example of the magic worked by the RD-1, all the

> Leicaholics on the list would be raising precisely the points I'm 
> raising.
>
> I'm not saying that this is a bad digital image - I'm just saying that

> it neither proves, nor even hints at, virtually anything.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf 
> Of feli
> Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 1:51 PM
> To: Leica Users Group; lug@leica-users.org
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Digital back
>
>
>
> >1 - Pardon my obvious lack of understanding, but what is it that 
> >distinguishes this tourist snap shot from any other tourist snap shot

> >taken with any 3mgp digital point and shoot?
>
> A couple of things:
>
> a) I don't see any color fringing around the thin tree branches and 
> there are no visible moire problems. (look at the shot with the 
> wreath. Dark green leaves against a white background) Given the fact 
> that Leica decided not to use a AA filter (or a waek one) infront of 
> the chip this is a good thing. Kodak didn't use one on their SLR and 
> has big problems with that.
>
> b) Looks like you can turn of the sharpen for the jpegs. Also a good 
> thing. Not sure if this was a in camera Jpeg conversion, but I don't 
> see any compression artifacts.
>
> c) Highlights don't look clipped. I don't see any holes or grey 
> blothces in the specular component. Roll off into the highlights looks

> good.
>
> d) I'm guessing this is 100asa, because I don't really see any noise 
> in the blacks.
>
> e) Unless this was post balanced, it appears that white balance works 
> well. Colors are clean, white and black neutral.
>
>
> >2 - Perhaps there's something wrong with my computer or browser, but 
> >when I right-click on the image, in order to get information about it

> >and save it to my desktop as a tiff, nothing comes up, leading me to 
> >believe that Leica doesn't want this image downloaded and examined 
> >carefully in Photoshop. Am I missing something here? B.D.
>
> You could examine it all you want in Photoshop, but since they are 
> either JPEG or TIFF you really won't learn a whole lot more than 
> looking at it in your browser. If you really wanted to dig into it, it

> would have to be a RAW file.
>
>
>
> Feli
>
>
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