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Subject: [Leica] Black and White C41 Film
From: leica_korenman at hotmail.com (eric)
Date: Thu Sep 23 02:59:03 2004
References: <410-2200494231406190@edge.net>

Calumet has BW400CN in stock.
I just received a large order.

Eric


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Nichols" <nicholsj@edge.net>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 9:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Black and White C41 Film


> Max,
>
> Thanks for the references.  I examined them and will try to locate a local
> source so that I can give BW400CN a try.  It sounds interesting.
>
> Jim Nichols
> Tullahoma, TN
>
>
>> [Original Message]
>> From: Max Weisenfeld <max_weisenfeld@verizon.net>
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>> Date: 9/22/2004 4:45:09 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Black and White C41 Film
>>
>> Jim,
>>
>> Kodak consumer films:
>>
> http://www.kodak.com/eknec/PageQuerier.jhtml?pq-path=2/3/9/543&pq-locale=en_
> US
>> Kodak Pro films:
>>
> http://www.kodak.com/global/en/professional/products/blackWhiteIndex.jhtml?i
> d=0.1.18.14.21&lc=en
>>
>> BW400CN (and Ilford XP2, for that matter)  are very different critters
> than
>> silver films.  The C-41 films, in my experience, yield less contrast and
>> edge sharpness, and more shadow detail when handled well.  They have a
>> smooth transition from light to dark that I like for portraits, and often
>> less grain in low-light (IMHO).   My work is not the best example of the
>> abilities though.  Take a look at Graham's:
>> http://www.geebeephoto.com/html/l10.html  (the T400CN he uses is the
>> previous version of BW400CN, he must have a big freezer).
>>
>> Max
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Jim Nichols" <nicholsj@edge.net>
>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 12:36 PM
>> Subject: RE: [Leica] Black and White C41 Film
>>
>>
>> > Dan,
>> >
>> > My experience with C41 film has been limited to Kodak BW400-2, the
>> > comsumer
>> > film available at Wal-Mart.  In some instances, it appears to offer 
>> > less
>> > contrast and more bland images than I recall from my years of using
>> > silver-based film.  I was just looking for comments from others about
>> > their
>> > experiences with this type of film.  I have actually made a few very
> good
>> > images with the film, so my problem may stem more from my technique 
>> > than
>> > from the film.
>> > I was also curious about the differences in Kodak films of this type.
> Do
>> > you know of a reference website that explains the various films and
> their
>> > intended uses?
>> >
>> > Jim Nichols
>> >
>> >
>> >> [Original Message]
>> >> From: Dan Colucci <colucci@thehearth.org>
>> >> To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>> >> Date: 9/22/2004 7:17:25 AM
>> >> Subject: RE: [Leica] Black and White C41 Film
>> >>
>> >> James - I have read your comments twice - what are you saying ?  I 
>> >> find
>> >> Kodak Portra BW400, used in contrasty lighting, is just superb with
>> >> final tonal range and superb detail...Edge sharpness is lacking, but I
>> >> enjoy the smooth tonality, especially for portraits
>> >>
>> >> Dan
>> >> www.antiquecameras.net
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: lug-bounces+colucci=thehearth.org@leica-users.org
>> >> [mailto:lug-bounces+colucci=thehearth.org@leica-users.org] On Behalf 
>> >> Of
>> >> JAMES NICHOLS
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 1:27 PM
>> >> To: LUG@Leica-Users.org
>> >> Subject: [Leica] Black and White C41 Film
>> >>
>> >> Comparing results with C41 B&W to the results I got with Plus-X, Super
>> >> XX, and Tri-X in the 1950s and 60s when I had my own darkroom, I have
>> >> been somewhat disappointed.  Though, without a darkroom, it appears to
>> >> be the most convenient way to shoot B&W.  However, after pulling the
>> >> image below from a cluttered negative taken amid the confusion of a
>> >> wedding rehearsal supper, I find that, if I do my job, the film will
>> >> take care of itself.  The image shows the bride-to-be, my
> granddaughter,
>> >> in a reflective mood after a busy day, with an even busier day ahead.
>> >>
>> >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/Musings/Bride_to_Be
>> >>
>> >> Leica IIIf RD, Summitar 5cm f/2.0
>> >> Exposure 1/50 at f/2.8
>> >> Kodak BW400-2
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> JAMES NICHOLS
>> >> nicholsj@edge.net
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