Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/04/06
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]> A couple of weeks ago, you commented on the jupiter 12 > lenses. Just after that, I purchased a Jupiter 8, black f2 > 50mm. The lens seems to be quite sharp and smooth to > operate. > > The one issue I run into after so many years with other > lenses is the diaphragm setting that rotates with the front > of the lens when I focus. > > You noted in your discussion of the Jup. 12 that it has an > "awkward" diaphragm setting. My question, (finally) . . . > Do all Jupiter lenses rotate their aperture setting? No. Jupiter 8 (2/50) rotates aperture setting, so early (black) versions had two diaphragm scales, on two sides of aperture ring, to make adjusting aperture simpler. Jupiter 12 (2.8/35) also rotates whole front part, but it is a issue with a lens from which this one was copied from (Zeiss Biogon 2.8/35), so blame Zeiss for this. Or blame Canada, which is very popular both among Leica collectors and South Park watchers.. :) Industar 22 (3.5/50) also rotates whole front part, just like Elmar 3.5/50, its earlier brother. Jupiter 3 (1.5/50) does not rotate front element as far as I remember (Michael can probably assure you on this). Jupiter 9 (2/85) does not rotate front element in majority of versions, but M42/Pentax thread version does... One of earliest though... Also Jupiter 11 (4/135) does not rotate front part in all three versions I saw. About optical difference between Elmar 4/90 and Jupiter 9 (2/85); all have some advantages each over other: Elmar 4/90: + Tessar-like construction, so center of FOV is sharp from wide open up and corners good at f/8, but corners never are really sharp + Very little flare and very good contrast (we are speaking about postwar coated version) + Small! and light, but front element rotates! Jupiter 9 (2/85): + Two stops brighter!!! + Sonnar construction, considerably flare-free, with nearly constant sharpness across whole field (OK, corners ARE worse, but much less so than with Elmar). But somewhat uncontrasty (NOT soft!) wide open, good from f/2.8 and very good at f/5.6 + Heavy! Big! But looks cool, too................ Both lenses have their own merits; you just should use whatever suits you... BTW; my favourite lens (and sharpest one!) is Jupiter 12 (2.8/35). Is even a tad sharper than Summitar at all f/stops. Not bat for ancient Zeiss Biogon design! :-) - ----- St. (Stanislaw B.A. Stawowy) http://www.geocities.com/Stanislaw_Stawowy Echelon/Carnivore lines: Bob Black, Hakim Bey, Ralph Klein, Sabotage in the American Workplace