Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/03/26

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Subject: Re: [Leica] 'Russian' Leica-fit lenses
From: "Stanislaw B.A. Stawowy" <watteau@krakow.neurosoft.net>
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 16:07:01 +0200
References: <01C0B5FD.05277840.jem.kime@cwcom.net>

> I saw a shop advertising a couple of cased 35mm f2.8 Jupiter 12s today, 
> (black, 1978) 25 UKP (about 40 USD) if some folks are interested. Sounds 
> very reasonable to me...

..and I can reccomend them to anyone interested (with usual caveats, like
"test before you buy"). These are very, very sharp lenses, with built-in
sunshade :-), with awkward diaphragm setting, unfortunately. Jupiters 12
have a deeply protruding rear element, this can prohibit using them on
M5 and CL(E), but not on M6 (and should even meter!) :)

Advantages: Very sharp, little vignetting, light, durable, cheap!
Zeiss Biogon copies (correct me if wrong). Noticeably sharper than
all 35 mm Leitz screwmount lenses (at least mine is), best at f/5.6
- - f/8. Couples correctly with rangefinder. Kyle Cassidy uses them
( http://www.asc.upenn.edu/usr/cassidy/leicaslacker/dis/index.html )

Disadvantages: Aluminium (not brass), deeply protruding rear element
(requiring special cap or normal cap with macro ring), prone to
flare in some situations (! at night - broight lanterns and when 
sun is in frame !), Kyle dislikes them:
( http://www.asc.upenn.edu/usr/cassidy/leicaslacker/dis/index.html )
..but he obviously got a dog.. :-)

For sample photos, my "Krakow in Christmas" gallery was made with
Jupiter 12 on IIIc. Jupiter was wide open (2.8) ans shutter speed 
was 1/4 - 1/2 sec.
- -----                                
                                St.
                     (Stanislaw B.A. Stawowy)
              http://www.geocities.com/Stanislaw_Stawowy
            Echelon/Carnivore lines: Bob Black, Hakim Bey, 
           Ralph Klein, Sabotage in the American Workplace

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