[Leica] Question for LUG: frameline on M3 for 35mm summaron lens

["Frank Dernie" <Frank.Dernie@btinternet.com>]

I'm sorry you are such an irritable fellow Bill.
I also have been on the LUG a few years - about 4 I think. I probably was
not
clear. It is of course USEABLE on cameras other than the M3 but they WERE
made for M3 - the M2 version has no eyes and brings up the 35mm frame -
absent in the M3 of course. Use on a non M3 is possible but not intended and
naturally results in a loss of rangefinder accuracy. My sources include
Laney van Hasbroek and Lager of course and owning the lens and cameras in
question - I haven't used an M2 in years though.
I am also a bit disappointed by the lack of accuracy in LUG replies these
days. There have been several cases of confusing the eyes on the M3 35mm
lenses intended to reduce the viewfinder magnification such that the 50mm
framelines match the 35mm field of view with the eyes for the 50mm DR which
are intended to correct the viewfinder and rangefinder for closeup use.
The point of my post was to disabuse the individual of the idea that
removing the eyes from his M3 lens was necessary for using it on a non M3.
Perhaps I was not clear enough in my explanation.
If the point of your post was to annoy me. You were MUCH more successful.
Frank

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>
>> The 35 mm lenses with eyes are for M3 only. They are not
> removeable easily,
>> or, depending on age and model, at all.
>
> What are you talking about???
>
> The 35mm Summaron f3.5 with eyes was designed for the M3
> camera.  But it can be used on the M2, M3, M4, M6.  The lens
> was produced from 1954 to 1960 with a total "M3" production
> of 19,159 units according to the Leica Pocket Book.  The
> manufacturer code was SOONC-MW.  The eyes are removable on
> this lens.  (Why you would want to except to clean the eyes,
> I don't know).  The cam calls up the 50mm frameline on all
> models.
>
> This is not a matter of opinion but of fact.  If you or
> anyone else has information to the contrary, please present
> it!
>
> This list is becoming nearly unusable for any questions
> regarding equipment ~ since many people seem to have
> opinions but few facts are presented.
>
> I am very fortunate to have come to the list several years
> ago when there were enough people on it that knew facts and
> could help me put together a viso system with all the
> correct adapters.  I would hate to try that now from the
> people currently on this list (with some notable exceptions,
> Marc).