Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2019/04/02
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I disagree, Mark. In the old days, I cropped. I've always cropped. Just look at my images and know that I crop. On the other hand, I never turn on the "crop" feature on my Sony full frame cameras. Regards, Sonny http://sonc.com/look/ Natchitoches, Louisiana 1714 Oldest Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana Purchase USA On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 3:01 PM Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: > > A "crop" is a term which gets used different ways. > In the old days it meant later on after you make your contact sheet > declaring to not print all the neg but take a red grease pencil and draw a > box in it and print that instead. Its an afterthought. Not done as you're > shooting. But maybe you could foresee it. Like people who always cropped > rectangles out of their square format shots. > Now "cropped" means you're shooting less than a full frame sensor. And > more recently means setting your camera to do that as you're shooting. Its > pre cropped for you. You never see what you didn't want. > So it's not an afterthought. It?s a present tense thought. > > In in the old days what you saw thought your camera was thought to be > special and you shouldn?t crop less than that later. > > > > > -- > > Mark William Rabiner > Photographer > > ?On 4/2/19, 11:02 AM, "LUG on behalf of Steve Barbour via LUG" > <lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of lug at > leica-users.org> wrote: > > Yes, I totally agree with Sonny , "every image you make is a crop!". > > > > On Apr 2, 2019, at 7:52 AM, Sonny Carter via LUG <lug at > leica-users.org> wrote: > > > > Every time you put a camera to your eye you begin to crop the > picture. > > Where you stand, how high you hold the camera, how tall or short you > > are, which lens you choose; It's all the same thing as cropping. > > > > I've been shooting pictures for more than sixty years, and one thing > > I've found out, if you don't crop the picture, the editor will. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Sonny > > http://sonc.com/look/ > > Natchitoches, Louisiana > > 1714 > > Oldest Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana Purchase > > > > USA > > > > On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 9:32 AM Steve Barbour via LUG > > <lug at leica-users.org> wrote: > >> > >> The "No-Croppers? will not buy it. > >> > >> Steve > >> > >>> On Apr 2, 2019, at 6:56 AM, CartersXRd via LUG <lug at > leica-users.org> wrote: > >>> > >>> The Q2 will will present an interessting artistic quandry of those > who refuse to crop the sacred 3:2 format. > >>> > >>> Will throwing the switch from 28 to 35 or 50 or 75 be a sinful > crop, or present a whole new holy rectangle? > >>> > >>> ric > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> On Apr 2, 2019, at 7:52 AM, Howard Ritter via LUG <lug at > leica-users.org> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> For me, digital zoom is a bit like an automatic transmission (or > a point-and-shoot function in a camera). It accomplishes one thing, a > center crop of fixed size, effortlessly. If you can work a clutch and > shift stick in your favorite image-processing program, you can have a crop > centered anywhere, of any size, of any dimensions. And you get to work in > raw/png/dng/tiff rather than jpeg. > >>>> > >>>> I frankly, no pun intended, don?t see the allure. Except maybe > that the VF crops the view as well as the sensor. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ?howard > >>>> > >>>>> On Apr1, 2019, at 1432, Frank Filippone via LUG <lug at > leica-users.org> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> The new Leica Q2 has the following specs.... > >>>>> 24x36 full frame sensor > >>>>> Sensor has resolution of 47.3MP > >>>>> Summilux 28 mm f/1.7 ASPH fixed, non-zoom, and > non-interchangeable lens > >>>>> OLED viewfinder has a resolution of 3.68 megapixels ( no > optical RF or VF) > >>>>> > >>>>> Internal cropping ( now referred to as "digital zoom") of this > lens allows for the following fixed equivalent Fl and resolutions..... > BUT for JPG files ONLY!! > >>>>> Zoom 28 mm: 47 megapixels (8368x5584 pixels), 24 megapixels > (6000x4000 pixels), 12 megapixels (4271x2848 pixels). 3 different > resolutions, I guess dependent on JPG compression ratios..... > >>>>> Zoom 35 mm: 30 megapixels (6704x4472 pixels), 15 megapixels > (4800x3200 pixels), 8 megapixels (3424x2288 pixels) > >>>>> Zoom 50 mm: 15 megapixels (4688x3128 pixels), 8 megapixels > (3360x2240 pixels), 4 megapixels (2400x1600 pixels) > >>>>> Zoom 75 mm: 7 megapixels (3136x2096 pixels), 3 megapixels > (2240x1496 pixels), 2 megapixels (1600x1072 pixels) > >>>>> > >>>>> DNG: RAW files of 47.3MP No Zoom at all. Crop in your choice > of LR, or other..... > >>>>> > >>>>> As long as you are happy to shoot JPG files, this is a fine set > of specs. > >>>>> If you wish to shoot RAW images, not as much.... but you o get > to crop in your own HxW ratios and specific areas to crop. > >>>>> > >>>>> If they would simply put a M mount on the camera, forget the AF, > and focus the camera on the Digi-M functions, it would be a fine camera > for me. > >>>>> > >>>>> Frank Filippone > >>>>> > >>>>> Red735i at verizon.net > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Leica Users Group. > >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > information > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Leica Users Group. > >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > information > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Leica Users Group. > >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > information > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Leica Users Group. > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information