Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2019/03/04

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Subject: [Leica] IMGS: B&W
From: john at mcmaster.co.uk (John McMaster)
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2019 22:29:56 +0000
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I tend to use wider apertures, Noctilux with a red filter and I never got a 
sharp (by f1.0 standards) shot!  Even an orange on the 21mm f3.4 knocked 
focus out....

john

-----Original Message-----
From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.co.uk at leica-users.org] On 
Behalf Of Lluis Ripoll via LUG
Sent: 04 March 2019 22:07
To: Leica Users Group
Cc: Lluis Ripoll
Subject: Re: [Leica] IMGS: B&W

I?ve never identified this problem with the MM, thank you John!
Lluis


> El 4 mar? 2019, a les 10:39, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.uk> va 
> escriure:
> 
> Also coloured filters affect the focussing on the Monochrom, hard to get 
> accurate focus with (say) a red filter.
> 
> john
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.co.uk at leica-users.org] On 
> Behalf Of Tina Manley via LUG
> Sent: 04 March 2019 00:09
> To: Leica Users Group
> Cc: Tina Manley
> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMGS: B&W
> 
> Yes, the MM is totally different from converting color.  I, however, would
> not use actual filters on Leica lenses.  Any glass in front of the lens
> degrades it to some extent and increases the possibility of flares.  That's
> one area that I think digital is better.  Take the photo with the MM and
> apply the digital filter later.  That way you still have the
> unmanipulated photo and can apply as many or as few filters as you want,
> after the fact.  I really like Nik's Silver Efex for processing B&W.
> 
> Tina
> 
> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 6:50 AM Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>> I really think and this shot illustrates it that they way to do black and
>> white when your shooting digital is to use a digital camera or back.
>> Digital conversions done later have never quite made it for me. Once I see
>> them in color I seldom feel like taking all the color out. I always know
>> the colors are there. Shots I'd converted to black and white years later
>> when I look at the original raw file again I end up keeping the color when
>> I photoshop it again.
>> I hope the time comes when I can get set up with a Leica monochrome or
>> other digital black and white sensor and wow start investing in filters as
>> I don?t know if I can find the ones I used to use. My default was the 060
>> B+W yellow green.  Is B+W  still in business it was owned by JSK 
>> Schneider?
>> But I loved a darker green or red for sky shots. And others. But the green
>> I used the most as they were the only ones which did not turn people in to
>> creatures from another planet.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> Mark William Rabiner
>> Photographer
>> 
>> ?On 3/3/19, 12:11 PM, "LUG on behalf of Tina Manley via LUG"
>> <lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of
>> lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
>> 
>>    PESO:
>> 
>>    I posted a few B&W's from night markets:
>> 
>>    https://pbase.com/tinamanley/image/168874023
>> 
>>    And next.
>> 
>>    I'll have lots more B&W when I get to some of people working but they
>> are
>>    usually such colorful people that I took far more color than B&W.
>> 
>>    TIA for any comments.
>> 
>>    Tina
>> 



Replies: Reply from lluisripollphotography at gmail.com (Lluis Ripoll) ([Leica] IMGS: B&W)
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