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Subject: [Leica] Wine (WAS: IMGs: At the Exhibition)
From: photo at frozenlight.eu (Nathan Wajsman)
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2017 20:08:56 +0100
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Actually, whisky and other branded liquors do get faked too. One thing that 
I have learned during the past few years is that ANYTHING with a brand name 
that has value can be and is faked. Even mundane everyday products like 
washing detergent.

Cheers,
Nathan

Nathan Wajsman
Alicante, Spain
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> On 20 Feb 2017, at 06:56, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Nathan,
> From what I understand, this is mainly because of prestige buying in China,
> and has to led to such an explosion of fakes that a novice buyer like me is
> never sure of what he is buying at the top end. Makes it a bit of Russian
> Roulette, if you ask me. I take comfort in the fact that nobody really
> bothers to fake Lagavulin 16 (that fate is left for JWBlack and its ilk!).
> Cheers
> Jayanand
> 
> On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 11:20 AM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu>
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Jayanand,
>> 
>> I am not Douglas, but I have a lot of experience with Bordeaux wines from
>> the years I lived in Brussels, 1995-2000. Back then, I would drive to
>> Bordeaux every year with a couple of other guys, and we would buy from 
>> some
>> of the good chateaux in St. Emilion and Pomerol. Likewise, every November
>> one of the Belgian supermarket chains had a sale of good wines. Even 
>> Latour
>> and its ilk were relatively affordable?30 or 40 EUR a bottle is not cheap
>> but not out of reach either.
>> 
>> Since then, prices of Bordeaux wines have risen to such ridiculous levels
>> that I never buy them anymore. We have lots of good wine here in Spain
>> which, with a few exceptions, is still priced at reasonable levels.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Nathan
>> 
>> Nathan Wajsman
>> Alicante, Spain
>> http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>
>> http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu
>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws <
>> http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ <
>> http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/>
>> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator <
>> http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator>
>> YNWA
>> 
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>>> On 20 Feb 2017, at 05:46, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Douglas,
>>> Like most Indians my experience and expertise runs towards whisky, but
>> that
>>> does not mean I do not enjoy a good glass of wine when available. Those
>>> vintages sound very good to taste, and trip off the tongue rather well,
>> but
>>> my knowledge is zilch on this subject, so I will take the word of an
>> expert
>>> such as yourself for it! Just a question - the one name I recognize is
>>> Chateau Latour, and I know it is very expensive (never tasted it to the
>>> best of my knowledge), so how do you buy this level of wine? Does your
>> club
>>> buy it early and lay it down, or what?
>>> Cheers
>>> Jayanand
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 7:00 PM, Douglas Barry <imra at iol.ie> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Jayanand, Philippe. I have to wear black tie and to be honest it's
>> easier
>>>> in the long run. I'm in the oldest foreign branch of a society for
>> Bordeaux
>>>> wines - it was founded in 1954 - and all our dinners have black tie as
>> de
>>>> rigeur. I'm The Donald of it and was re-elected president again that
>> night.
>>>> 
>>>> For those of you who are interested in wine, we had the G de Guiraud
>> 2013
>>>> and 2014 as the opening whites. BTW the 2013 is better. Then we had
>> three
>>>> reds - '98 Ducru Beaucaillou, '98 Montrose, and '98 Latour - and we
>>>> finished with a pudding wine 2001 Rieussec. We ate at one of the oldest
>>>> gentlemen's clubs in Ireland and the food was excellent. All very
>>>> delectable and I didn't even have the slightest hangover the following
>>>> morning.
>>>> 
>>>> Douglas
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jayanand Govindaraj" <
>>>> jayanand at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2017 5:18 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMGs: At the Exhibition
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Douglas,
>>>>> You are looking great with your prints! I did not know black tie was
>> still
>>>>> de rigueur for dinners, however formal, we must be living on different
>>>>> planets - here we are happy if they do not turn up in shorts and flip
>>>>> flops!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Jayanand
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 9:12 PM, Douglas Barry <imra at iol.ie> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> The opening of our exhibition http://www.mermaidartscentre.i
>>>>>> e/exhibitions/details/bray-camera-club took place on the 9th and I
>> went
>>>>>> along. I was a bit overdressed for the occasion, and in a rush, as I
>> had
>>>>>> one of my dinners on in the centre of Dublin a little over an hour
>> later.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Myself beside my photographs at the Mermaid Arts Centre, Bray, Co.
>>>>>> Wicklow. Image taken by Eilis Taves using my Fuji X100S.
>>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/DouglasBray/Interiors/BCC+
>>>>>> Exhibitions/BCC+1.jpg.html
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Donal Enright and Malcolm McCamley at the BCC Exhibition in the
>> Mermaid
>>>>>> Arts Centre, Bray, Co. Wicklow. Fuji X100S.
>>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/DouglasBray/Interiors/BCC+
>>>>>> Exhibitions/BCC+2.jpg.html
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Douglas
>>>>>> 
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