Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2016/09/13

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Subject: [Leica] Draconian "Release"
From: tmanley at gmail.com (Tina Manley)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2016 16:39:48 -0400
References: <CA+yJO1Cpvg4B-PVjMCLPdMn3cer7jaheP2vqikxgF7kQiD8PWg@mail.gmail.com> <BB423E47-08FB-44C8-9B5E-E423197C8B97@frozenlight.eu>

They are not paying me anything!  The article was supposed to give
publicity to the fund-raising projects we are doing for the Syrian
refugees.  They missed the first one, which was my lecture today, but there
are several more coming up.  Evidently, we did not need their help with
publicity today because there was a huge, enthusiastic turn-out!  I told
the newspaper that I could not and would not sign their ridiculous
release.  Everybody needs to do that and they could publish a newspaper
with no photographs!!

Tina

On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 4:27 PM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu>
wrote:

> To me the only relevant consideration is how much they are paying you. Is
> it enough to offset your pain about giving away the rights? If yes, then
> OK. If not, then tell them to go f**k themselves.
>
> Cheers,
> Nathan
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> Nathan Wajsman
> Alicante, Spain
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> > On 13 Sep 2016, at 22:21, Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > LUG -
> >
> > I'm sure you've heard more than enough about the Syrian refugee project
> but
> > I've run into a problem and would like your opinion.
> >
> > The local newspaper The Herald - which has been bought out by McClatchy,
> > along with every other newspaper around - asked for some of my photos to
> > illustrate an article about the project.  I sent them several photos two
> > weeks ago with permission to use them in the newspaper and on their
> website
> > with a copyright notice.  I didn't hear anything for two weeks.  Today I
> > got an e-mail saying that they could not use the photos with a copyright
> > notice and if I gave them permission to use them without the copyright
> > notice, I would also have to sign a release giving the Herald "an
> > irrevocable, royalty-free license to publish, republish, resell,
> > distribute, copy and edit the submission an unlimited number of times in
> > any print, electronic or other medium."
> >
> > I explained to them that I could never sign a release that gives away all
> > rights to my photos - that it would not be fair to me or the subjects of
> my
> > photos.  I explained that I never lease photos as royalty-free and that
> any
> > royalty-free photo that featured an identifiable person would have to
> have
> > a model-release signed by that person.  All of my photos are rights
> managed
> > for editorial use only.
> >
> > I told them they were welcome to use the photos with a copyright notice.
> > Now I have to explain to the committee why the photos won't be in the
> > Herald :-(
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> > Tina
> >
> > --
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Tina Manley
www.tinamanley.com
tina-manley.artistwebsites.com
http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html


Replies: Reply from richard at richardmanphoto.com (Richard Man) ([Leica] Draconian "Release")
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