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Subject: [Leica] IMGS: Zoroastrian Fire Temple
From: tmanley at gmail.com (Tina Manley)
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2016 07:44:34 -0400
References: <CA+yJO1BME6fyy_7BWPk_6uCaL-6DtqE7LOaS62OkuaPLth+rsA@mail.gmail.com> <15228353-13B7-47A7-9874-9A9974378473@frozenlight.eu> <CA+yJO1D56TUNzK-9VqsTRou07+KPgNwNB3+6uYcpE6DYz6AkNA@mail.gmail.com> <e7569003c26e4fa5a5d4d6e69f8451ba@WhizzEXM02.whizz.org> <AD0738C9-CF13-490B-8E36-8A6128EA03B8@gmail.com> <b051203872f1482d8c6c570a028ff0b8@WhizzEXM02.whizz.org> <CA+yJO1CnMoKY=4sn+rc+E9s9_5j1a0K1K3XcoR-YHNzX47W=+g@mail.gmail.com> <853464a6542a4de892e303fd40f502aa@WhizzEXM01.whizz.org> <45D4D742-8B1B-4BAF-A0FB-903D1D5F553C@gmail.com> <CA+yJO1DBGzNzJePgWRkyxLgx1Q=k-AoE+_CvFR44FLHFhqVxTw@mail.gmail.com> <765EA1EC-0EC9-4422-B2D5-F4229ABD2BF9@frozenlight.eu>

Thanks, Nathan.  I appreciate your opinion.  I'm glad LR keeps the RAW file
so I can go back and make as many versions as I want!  Judging from some of
the photos selling as stock today, I'm not overcooking them enough!

Tina

On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 3:21 AM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu>
wrote:

> Well, now that you have shown me both, I would say that for my own ends, I
> would lean more towards the less processed one. This will not surprise you
> or anyone else who has looked at my pictures over the years. But I do
> understand completely that in the stock marketplace which is your target
> here, this kind of photo with subtle, muted colors will not sell well. As I
> said earlier, your processed version has a nice, painterly feel to it, and
> IMO you have not overcooked the photo.
>
> Anyway, remember Adams?s saying about the negative being the score and the
> print the performance. Nowadays, the RAW file is the score.
>
> Cheers,
> Nathan
>
> Nathan Wajsman
> Alicante, Spain
> http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>
> http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu <http://www.greatpix.eu/>
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> http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ <
> http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/>
> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator <
> http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator>
> YNWA
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> > On 10 Jun 2016, at 15:54, Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com <mailto:
> tmanley at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > OK, Guys -
> >
> > This is what I am competing with:
> >
> https://www.google.com/search?q=zoroastrian+fire+temple&rlz=1C1CAFB_enUS636US636&espv=2&biw=1920&bih=1075&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjNyM_czJ3NAhURziYKHcMEBfoQ_AUIBigB
> <
> https://www.google.com/search?q=zoroastrian+fire+temple&rlz=1C1CAFB_enUS636US636&espv=2&biw=1920&bih=1075&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjNyM_czJ3NAhURziYKHcMEBfoQ_AUIBigB
> >
> >
> > You have to stand out in the crowd if you are going to attract buyers.
> >
> > Here is the original photo, straight from the camera, converted to jpeg:
> >
> > http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/163424161
> >
> > Here is the same photo, processed in Color Efex Pro with the saturation
> at
> > 6 (I also took out somebody's shoulder in the bottom right - shades of
> > McCurry!!):
> >
> > http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/163424164
> >
> > View at Original.  I don't think the differences are that great, but the
> > second one will sell better than the first.  I guarantee it.
> >
> > Tina
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 3:26 AM, Philippe <
> photo.philippe.amard at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Come on john, be a sport, Tina hasn't added more colour than you usually
> >> subtract ;-)
> >>
> >> Amities from sunny Alsace
> >> Philippe
> >>
> >>
> >> Le 10 juin 2016 ? 09:19, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.fr> a ?crit :
> >>
> >>> Even in a small JPEG they look processed to me :-(
> >>>
> >>> john
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>
> >>> Sorry you don't like it.  I do.
> >>>
> >>> Tina
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 5:44 PM, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.fr>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Glad I do not in that case ;-)
> >>>>
> >>>> john
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>
> >>>> Sometimes I use Color Efex Pro if I like the look. Have you looked at
> >>>> Stock sites lately?? Mine are very, very conservative!
> >>>>
> >>>> Tina
> >>>>
> >>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Jun 9, 2016, at 4:47 PM, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.fr> 
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So is that what gives what looks like boosted colours to many images?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> john
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks, Nathan.  I like that one.  I used Color Efex Pro applied a
> >>>> little stronger than usual because I thought a "painting" look would
> >>>> be appropriate.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Tina
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 4:27 PM, Nathan Wajsman
> >>>>>> <photo at frozenlight.eu>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> That image is beautiful. It looks like a painting.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>> Nathan
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Nathan Wajsman
> >>>>>> Alicante, Spain
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 08 Jun 2016, at 00:15, Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> PESO:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> We visited the Zoroastrian Fire Temple in Yazd for a worship
> service.
> >>>>>>> Ordinarily, non-Zoroastrians are not allowed in the room where the
> >>>>>>> Victorious Fire (Khordeh Avesta) is located but we went with our
> >>>>>>> friends from the cucumber farm and they talked us in.  Everybody
> >>>>>>> was very
> >>>>>> welcoming
> >>>>>>> once we got inside.  The rooms were very, very small and crowded
> >>>>>>> so photography was pretty difficult.  The fire itself is from 470
> AD.
> >>>>>> Almost
> >>>>>>> unbelievable!!
> >>>>>> http://tinamanley.photoshelter.com/gallery-image/Iran/G0000YmlbTddL
> >>>>>> 96
> >>>>>> g
> >>>>>> /I0000Y3UKBocfwEk
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> and hit previous for more.  I'm still having problems with the
> lines.
> >>>>>>> Caitlyn from PhotoShelter affirmed that is not a problem with my
> >>>>>>> files
> >>>>>> but
> >>>>>>> thinks the transmission might have some hiccups.  She suggested I
> >>>>>>> reload them all.  Which I will get around to doing eventually!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "The *Yazd Atash Behram*, also known as *Yazd Atash Kadeh*), is a
> >>>>>>> temple
> >>>>>> in
> >>>>>>> Yazd <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yazd>, to the west of Shiraz
> >>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiraz> in Iran. It was built in
> >>>>>>> 1934 and enshrines the Atash Bahram
> >>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atash_Bahram>,
> >>>>>>> meaning ?Victorious Fire?, dated to 470 AD. The sacred fire is
> >>>>>>> installed
> >>>>>> in
> >>>>>>> the temple behind an amber tinted glass enclosure. Only
> >>>>>>> Zoroastrians are allowed to go to the sanctum area of the fire."
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> C&C greatly appreciated.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Tina
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> Tina Manley
> >>>>>>> www.tinamanley.com
> >>>>>>> tina-manley.artistwebsites.com
> >>>>>
> >>>
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Tina Manley
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