[Leica] Nik software

[pdzwig at summaventures.com (Peter Dzwig)]

I'd add that I am beginning to use it, but find some of the film simulation
modes poor, eg Tri-X 400, BW400CN.

I have a sort of so-so feeling about it: that if I understood it better I 
would
get results closer to what I am after. Perhaps that means it's time for some
reading! I don't find the online help answers my questions. Does anyone have 
any
SEP-specific recommendations in addition to Versace's book?

Peter

On 05/06/2016 00:55, Ken Carney wrote:
> I'll second that.  Steve Barbour mentioned Vincent Versace's book on b&w
> conversion ("From Oz to Kansas"), so I bought it and the video.  It 
> contains
> numerous b&w conversion techiques for PS, but...the best part was 
> suggestions on
> using SEP Pro, of which I believe he was one of the developers.  I use SEP 
> as a
> smart object in PS, so if desired I can go back and change things.  It is 
> also a
> LR plug-in.
> 
> Ken
> 
> 
> On 6/4/2016 11:52 AM, Jayanand Govindaraj wrote:
>> Nathan,
>> There is no comparison between the Nik tools and what is available in
>> Lightroom, which IMHO, is basic in comparison. Silver Efex Pro is an
>> integral part of my B&W workflow, as are Color Efex Pro and Viveza for
>> other workflow. Then, again, I have been using these tools for a very long
>> time, since Nik first introduced them in Nikon's Capture RAW converters
>> (before Nik started selling them as stand alone tools), in fact, so I am
>> quite conversant with all that can be done. It is not a shallow learning
>> curve, but rather a steep one, and just the advantage of being able to 
>> work
>> on a small part of the frame at a time, via what are called "Control
>> Points", itself is worth the price you pay in learning to use the suite
>> properly. I am very comfortable with using this software, mainly because
>> the slog is behind me, whether you find it worthwhile or not is something
>> only you can decide. My advice would be to give it a fair go before
>> deciding one way or another.
>> Cheers
>> Jayanand
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 11:02 AM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Jim. But that is what I do in LR itself too, so I fail to see the
>>> advantage of the extra software (and the additional image file that
>>> results).
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Nathan
>>>
>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>> Alicante, Spain
>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>
>>> http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu
>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws <
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>>> http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator>
>>> YNWA
>>>
>>>
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>>>> On 04 Jun 2016, at 07:23, Jim Nichols <jhnichols at lighttube.net> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I seldom use one of their presets.  I work with the sliders and menu
>>> choices until I find something I like, and then come back to that recipe 
>>> as
>>> a starting point for the next image.
>>>> Jim Nichols
>>>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>>>>
>>>> On 6/4/2016 12:16 AM, Nathan Wajsman wrote:
>>>>> I stand correct. Tried Silver Efex Pro on an image, using Fuji Acros as
>>> the preset. Still not sure I like it. When I compare the original image
>>> with the Silver Efex image, the latter seems harsh. Will have to play 
>>> some
>>> more, I guess.
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Nathan
>>>>>
>>>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>>>> Alicante, Spain
>>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/> <
>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu/ <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>>
>>>>> http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/ <http://www.greatpix.eu/>>
>>> www.greatpix.eu <http://www.greatpix.eu/>
>>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws <
>>> http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws> <http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws <
>>> http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>>Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ 
>>> <
>>> http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/><http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
>>> <http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/>>
>>>>> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator <
>>> http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator> <
>>> http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator <
>>> http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator>>
>>>>> YNWA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>> On 04 Jun 2016, at 06:55, Jim Nichols <jhnichols at lighttube.net> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nathan,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Analog Efex Pro2 is not the same as Silver Efex Pro2.  Look around for
>>> Silver Efex Pro2.exe.
>>>>>> Jim Nichols
>>>>>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/3/2016 11:51 PM, Nathan Wajsman wrote:
>>>>>>> I have downloaded the Nik suite from Google and have tried out the
>>> Silver Efex Pro (now called Analog Efex Pro).
>>>>>>> Am I the only one who finds the resulting images to have an
>>> over-processed, over-sharpened look to them? I did not tweak any 
>>> settings,
>>> just went with the automatic ones.
>>>>>>> I think I prefer my own adjustments in LR.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I will play with it some more, and try Dfine as well for noise
>>> removal, but I suspect I will end up uninstalling this software.
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Nathan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>>>>>> Alicante, Spain
>>>>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>
>>>>>>> http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu
>>>>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws <
>>> http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ <
>>> http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/>
>>>>>>> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator <
>>> http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator>
>>>>>>> YNWA
>>>>>>>
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