[Leica] Snapshot Profile mode

[photo at frozenlight.eu (Nathan Wajsman)]

I actually use a user profile on my M8. Why? Like Tina, I only ever shoot 
RAW. And my normal setting is auto ISO. But sometimes, for example when 
shooting panoramas, I do not want auto ISO because I want the same exposure 
settings on all the frames that will be stitched later. So I use one of my 
user profies for that, as it is faster to press the SET button and choose 
that user profile than to change the iSO setting.

Cheers,
Nathan

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> On 25 May 2016, at 01:49, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I tried it once, long ago, but it was maddening to me, because it just 
> added something to undo
> 
> from my iPad
> 
> Sonny Carter
> 
>> On May 24, 2016, at 6:22 PM, Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I've never used a user profile.  I always shoot everything raw so no
>> profile is needed.
>> 
>> Tina
>> 
>>> On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 4:14 PM, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> According to Overgaard:
>>> 
>>> "When you have saved no user profiles, the only available choice is the "
>>> - " (no profile). If you don't have any specific use for User profiles, I
>>> recommend you don't define any."
>>> 
>>> On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 2:22 PM, bob catchpole via LUG <
>>> lug at leica-users.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> It's good to know conclusively that in 'Snapshot Profile mode' the 
>>>> camera
>>>> only shoots JPEGs. Which, for me, is plent reason to avoid ever
>>>> accidentally using it!
>>>> Nathan says "It seems impossible to do so accidentally since it involves
>>>> several actions, not just pressing a button." I've just checked and 
>>>> sadly
>>>> that's not the case.
>>>> 
>>>> Here's what happened. I created a user profile ('Bob') and photographed
>>>> for a couple of hours. At some point, when maybe I changed the ISO
>>> setting,
>>>> the camera exited the user profile (since it no longer conformed to the
>>>> 'Bob' profile settings). At the time I wasn't aware of this, which
>>> wasn't a
>>>> problem since I was aware of the camera settings.
>>>> 
>>>> However, later, when I pressed SET I noticed at the bottom where before
>>> it
>>>> said 'Set user profile... Bob' it now said 'Set user profile... -'
>>> (blank).
>>>> I now realised the camera wasn't using the 'Bob' profile. I highlighted
>>>> that line and pressed SET to have a look at the profiles menu to maybe
>>>> re-set the Bob' profile.
>>>> 
>>>> This was the danger moment! And a real flaw as far as I'm concerned! By
>>>> default 'Snapshot Profile' is selected at the top of the list. In that
>>>> moment I decided I didn't want to set a profile and continue as I'd been
>>>> doing, and just exit the menu. To exit you have to press the shutter
>>>> button. But if you accidentally press the SET button (so easy to do!)
>>>> you're in trouble because now you're in the dreaded 'Snapshot Profile
>>> mode'.
>>>> Question 2: Is there a risk of accidentally switching on the Snapshot
>>>> Profile mode? Unfortunately the answer seems to be 'Yes'.
>>>>  Question 3: Is there a way of making sure the Snapshot Profile mode
>>>> can't be switched on accidentally? Can it be permanently disabled? I'd
>>> love
>>>> to know, but am not optimistic.
>>>> 
>>>> By the way, I think the presentation and explanation of the Snapshot
>>>> Profile in the M-E manual is appalling bad and unworthy of Leica. I
>>> didn't
>>>> understand what they were on about, which is why I came here for help.
>>>> Bob
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>     From: photo photo <photo at frozenlight.eu>
>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2016, 17:10
>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Snapshot Profile mode
>>>> 
>>>> Just out of curiosity, and to demonstrate the usefulness of looking in
>>> the
>>>> manual, I looked up the M9 manual and there (on p. 103) it is stated 
>>>> that
>>>> in
>>>> snapshot mode, quality is set to JPG Fine.
>>>> 
>>>> The instruction manual further explains (p. 141) how to set the snapshot
>>>> mode.
>>>> It seems impossible to do so accidentally since it involves several
>>>> actions, not
>>>> just pressing a button.
>>>> 
>>>> Once again, I maintain that reading the manual would have provided the
>>>> original
>>>> poster with the answers he needed.
>>>> 
>>>> Nathan
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>  Op 24 mei 2016 om 16:16 schreef Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com>:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>  Looks like the snapshot mode is not addressed in the M-E
>>> instructions.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  If you don't set any user profiles, then you will not take a chance
>>> of
>>>>>  entering the snapshot mode. (That's why so few of us have any
>>>> experience
>>>>>  with the mode.)
>>>>> 
>>>>>  I don't have my M9 nearby, but from what I read, it seems you may
>>>> still
>>>>>  have the option to shoot DNG with Snapshot mode.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  Leica M9 brochure: "In snapshot mode, the M9 automatically sets as
>>>> many
>>>>>  settings as possible, thus providing a valuable aid to spontaneous
>>> and
>>>>>  discreet photography."
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>  On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 8:13 AM, bob catchpole via LUG
>>>>> <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks for your comments Philippe. Much appreciated, as I'm new to
>>>> the
>>>>>> list and to the Leica M-E.
>>>>>> I hoped my questions would be easy for folks on the list. John now
>>>> says
>>>>>> it's "impossible to give definite answers."
>>>>>> Question 1: In the Snapshot Profile mode does the camera only
>>> shoot
>>>>>> JPEGs?
>>>>>> Yes or no? That's pretty definite. Anyone know?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Question 2: Is there a risk of accidentally switching on the
>>>> Snapshot
>>>>>> Profile mode? Yes or no? Has it happened to anyone on the list?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Question 3: Is there a way of making sure the Snapshot Profile
>>> mode
>>>>>> can't
>>>>>> be switched on accidentally? Can it be permanently disabled? Yes
>>> or
>>>> no?
>>>>>> Anybody know?
>>>>>> Thanks,Bob
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: John McMaster <john at mcmaster.fr>
>>>>>> To: bob catchpole <bobcatchpole at yahoo.co.uk>; Leica Users Group <
>>>>>> lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2016, 13:37
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Snapshot Profile mode
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Impossible to give definitive answers as we all work differently,
>>>> not
>>>>>> aware of anybody on this list accidently getting their M9 into
>>>> snapshot
>>>>>> mode.... In fact, as there are (thankfully) so few options I doubt
>>>> many
>>>>>> use
>>>>>> more than a single profile, if that.....
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> john
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> John,
>>>>>> Your comments suggest you're not exactly best placed to offer
>>>> conclusive
>>>>>> answers! It would be good if others with personal knowledge and
>>>>>> experience
>>>>>> of the issue could respond.
>>>>>> I'm disappointed to find a Leica camera accommodating a feature
>>>> like the
>>>>>> Snapshot Profile mode. It would damage my photography, but seems
>>>> easy to
>>>>>> slip into accidentally. Can it be permanently disabled?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Bob
>>>>>> From: John McMaster <john at mcmaster.fr>
>>>>>> To: bob catchpole <bobcatchpole at yahoo.co.uk>; Leica Users Group <
>>>>>> lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, 23 May 2016, 17:00
>>>>>> Subject: RE: [Leica] Snapshot Profile mode
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If it is similar to the M9 (never used an M-E) then there should
>>> be
>>>> no
>>>>>> danger of entering snapshot mode, never done it in nearly six
>>> years
>>>> of
>>>>>> M9
>>>>>> ownership ;-)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 1) Never felt the urge to find out what it does....
>>>>>> 2) Doubt it
>>>>>> 3) Never needed it
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> john
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.fr at leica-users.org]
>>> On
>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>> Of bob catchpole via LUG
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, 23 May 2016 4:34 p.m.
>>>>>> To: John McMaster; lug at leica-users.org
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Snapshot Profile mode
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi John,
>>>>>> Thanks for the link, unfortunately the thread is rather confused
>>>> and the
>>>>>> concluding comments not very re-assuring. I don't feel my 3
>>>> questions
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> been answered, I hope others on the list will be able to
>>>> help.Thanks,Bob
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: John McMaster <john at mcmaster.fr>
>>>>>> To: bob catchpole <bobcatchpole at yahoo.co.uk>; Leica Users Group <
>>>>>> lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, 23 May 2016, 15:34
>>>>>> Subject: RE: [Leica] Snapshot Profile mode
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Bob, the last comment on this thread?
>>> http://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/122980-how-to-deactivate-the-snapshot-mode-on-the-m9/
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> john
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.fr at leica-users.org]
>>> On
>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>> Of bob catchpole via LUG
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, 23 May 2016 2:31 p.m.
>>>>>> To: lug at leica-users.org
>>>>>> Subject: [Leica] Snapshot Profile mode
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello list,
>>>>>> I've just started using a digital Leica, the M-E. My questions are
>>>> about
>>>>>> the Snapshot Profile mode, which I'd personally like to have as
>>>> little
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> do with as possible!
>>>>>> 1) In the Snapshot Profile mode does the camera only shoot JPEGs?
>>>>>> 2) Is there a risk of accidentally switching on the Snapshot
>>> Profile
>>>>>> mode?
>>>>>> 3) Is there a way of making sure the Snapshot Profile mode can't
>>> be
>>>>>> switched on accidentally? Can it be permanently disabled?
>>>>>> Thanks,Bob
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
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