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Subject: [Leica] Spam (8.398):Re: Babbage Difference Engine Funeral
From: Frank.Dernie at btinternet.com (Frank Dernie)
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2016 09:27:14 +0000
References: <D8CE378C-10FD-419E-A2A7-5D45638D5809@acm.org> <7AB8BC27-32E1-445D-B0C8-DDBEC2586B7F@frozenlight.eu> <4D00DB9F-58F4-4A99-BDED-D2220AD415F0@acm.org>

Hi Herb,
IME being ?rocking in money? does not mean a guy is not desperate to get 
more IME.
Sadly.
Being a patent troll is the lowest way of exploiting an imperfect legal 
system to gain huge amounts of money which have neither been earned or 
deserved IMHO.
Frank D.

> On 26 Feb 2016, at 20:43, Herbert Kanner <kanner at acm.org> wrote:
> 
> That,s also the opinion of a lawyer friend of mine, except I have a 
> feeling that he never sees gray, only black of white. The impression I 
> got, fairly strongly, is that IV buys up patents in order to license them 
> exclusively to firms that are doing things that Myhrvold feels are in the 
> public good. Also, this guy is so rocking in money that it is obvious he 
> can?t be doing it to make more.
> 
> Another point is that the man to whom I spoke at length, Mike, the head of 
> IV's instrumentation shop, told me that IV works very closely with the 
> Bill Gates Foundation. Despite this, IV has sued Microsoft for patent 
> infringement. Finally, another ex lawyer friend told me that if you don?t 
> pursue infringers, you can lose your exclusive rights to a patent you hold.
> 
> Herb
> 
> Herbert Kanner
> kanner at acm.org
> 
> Question Authority and the authorities will question you.
> 
>> On Feb 26, 2016, at 12:12 PM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks for the story and the pics (the last one is too grainy, I think 
>> you were over-enthusiastic with the adjustments). 
>> 
>> Intellectual Ventures are indeed patent trolls. I consider them scum.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Nathan
>> 
>> Nathan Wajsman
>> Alicante, Spain
>> http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>
>> http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu
>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws 
>> <http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ 
>> <http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/>
>> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator 
>> <http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator>
>> YNWA
>> 
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>>> On 25 Feb 2016, at 02:52, Herbert Kanner <kanner at acm.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Over eight years ago, at the instigation of Bill Gates, the Science 
>>> Museum in London approached Nathan Myhrvold, former Chief Technology 
>>> Officer for Microsoft, for financial help in completing the Babbage 
>>> Difference Engine. The Museum had built the larger component, the one 
>>> that did the actual arithmetic. The additional financing was to enable 
>>> them to build the smaller but very complex component that would print 
>>> the results on a paper roll and, most important, create a mold in soft 
>>> plaster of paris, that when hardened would enable the creation of a 
>>> full-page plate, ready to go into a printing press, by pouring molten 
>>> type metal into the mold.
>>> 
>>> Nathan made the London Museum an offer the just couldn?t refuse. He said 
>>> he would finance the building of two copies of the missing part and one 
>>> more copy of the original part, saying that he wanted to have that (five 
>>> ton) machine in his living room.
>>> 
>>> It never got there. Len Shustek, the Chair of the Computer History 
>>> Museum (Mountain View, CA) Board of Trustees persuaded him to lend it to 
>>> us for a year. Every December 15th we asked for an extension and got 
>>> (exactly) a one-year extension. For eight years, I?ve done the lecture 
>>> part of a lecturer-demonstration of the machine at exactly 1:00 every 
>>> Saturday with rare exceptions. I?ve also been a member of a six-person 
>>> maintenance group doing monthly maintenance: mostly lubrication but 
>>> occasionally solving problems which at best caused the machine to jam 
>>> and at worst, broke parts.
>>> 
>>> A gentlemen named Tim Robinson has been head of the maintenance group. 
>>> Without him, we could not have operated this equipment. He not only had 
>>> a deep understanding of this amazing mechanism, even having built a 
>>> version out of a Mechano set, but more than once he created a solution 
>>> to a problem by making a unique fix over a weekend in his home machine 
>>> shop.
>>> 
>>> This December 15th the blow struck. Nathan said he wanted his machine 
>>> back. As far as we knew, it was not going to be in public view, but was 
>>> going to sit in a laboratory building that is part of his company: IV 
>>> (Intellectual Ventures), known to a lawyer friend of mind as a patent 
>>> trolling firm.
>>> 
>>> Tim?s initial reaction was to prepare a one-page summary of suggestions 
>>> for safely starting the machine without breaking anything. Then he met 
>>> Mike, that head of the instrumentation shop of Nathan's laboratory. When 
>>> it became clear that Mike was highly competent and very proactive?he 
>>> joined our crew in hours of work mothballing the machine and even took 
>>> some precautions we had not thought of. Immediately after meeting Mike, 
>>> Tim produced a ten-page detailed document on start-up recommendations. I 
>>> should mention that Mike was hired away from the University of 
>>> Washington, where he was the head of a similar shop.
>>> 
>>> I got to talk to Mike for about a half-hour while waiting for the 
>>> roughly 300 people to clear out after the last-ever demonstration. I got 
>>> the impression that Nathan delves in anything that interests him?ain?t 
>>> money nice?and that the patents he collects are licensed out to selected 
>>> companies that are doing things in the hoped for public good, e.g. 
>>> climate change, internet access in developing countries, etc.
>>> 
>>> The day before the mothballing of the machine for shipment, a 
>>> professional video crew spent the day filming Tim explaining the 
>>> machine. I believe this crew are employees of our Museum though knowing 
>>> the history of our CEO, they could have been liberated from PGS. While a 
>>> number of volunteers were watching from a distance, I braved a carefully 
>>> walking on the set with my M even though the working crew appeared to 
>>> have a still photographer using a fearsome looking SLR. I walked with 
>>> great care not to get in anyone?s way and to freeze between when the 
>>> director said ?action? and when he said ?cut?. I was surprised to find 
>>> myself tolerated. So I found out later were the other observers. It was 
>>> difficult shooting, partly because of floodlights aimed in all 
>>> directions. I shot over eighty frames and finally selected six. I?ve no 
>>> idea what that other still photographer got.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim is fully visible in all but of these shots. He has a beard, a 
>>> pony-tail, and is wearing a red shirt.
>>> I also took some shots the next day of the month-balling of the machine, 
>>> but haven?t yet looked at them. If any good, I?ll post a few later.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/herbk1/L1004486.jpg.html 
>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/herbk1/L1004486.jpg.html>
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/herbk1/L1004502.jpg.html 
>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/herbk1/L1004502.jpg.html>
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/herbk1/L1004515.jpg.html 
>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/herbk1/L1004515.jpg.html>
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/herbk1/L1004529.jpg.html 
>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/herbk1/L1004529.jpg.html>
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/herbk1/L1004527.jpg.html 
>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/herbk1/L1004527.jpg.html>
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/herbk1/L1004559.jpg.html 
>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/herbk1/L1004559.jpg.html>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Herbert Kanner
>>> kanner at acm.org
>>> 
>>> Question Authority and the authorities will question you.
>>> 
>>> 
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