Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2015/11/30
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I would be curious as well, but they need to be more methodical ;-) john -----Original Message----- Because several people asked me to and I was trying to be co-operative! Tina On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 4:59 PM, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.fr> wrote: > Then why bother testing or comparing? Just practice for what you > bought it for ;-) > > john > > -----Original Message----- > > I'd much rather practice focusing on chickens' eyes. That's a more > useful test for the kind of photography I do! Ferns and peeling paint > and rocks that don't move are not my thing ;-) To me, whether the > corners are in focus or not is not nearly as important as whether I > can get sharp eyes in a moving subject. With the SL, my hit rate is > much higher and getting even higher as I learn to use it. The real > test will be when I take it on a trip. I'm hoping right now with all > of this testing to be able to use the camera automatically without > having to stop and think about which button or which wheel to use for > the setting I want. The settings are pretty intuitive but they do > take more practice and learning than the M cameras, but not nearly as > much as the Fuji ones!! > > Tina > > On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 4:33 PM, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.fr> wrote: > > > A more useful test is where the subject is near infinity and should > > be in focus, see what the corners look like with the 35/2.0, that is > > where the SL may be weaker than the M... Tripods are the only way to > > do decent A-B testing, that is not real photography ;-) > > > > john > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > I hate tripods. I did put the camera on the rail of the porch. I'd > > be glad to send anybody a full DNG or blow up any section to 100% > > and post > it. > > You are probably right about the lens weight; however, I did carry > > around a Canon 1DMII with an 85/1.2 lens for over a year before > > Leica finally came out with a digital camera. That combination > > weighs 2623 grams and is not nearly as easy to handle as the SL and > > 24-90 at 2095 > grams. > > > > Tina > > > > On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 4:24 PM, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.fr> > > wrote: > > > > > That you could/should have used a tripod to get similar framing > > > ;-) You, looking at the DNGs, are the only one who is likely to > > > see a real difference..... There will be no native SL lens > > > weighing less than twice (more likely 3x) the weight of a 35/2.0.... > > > > > > john > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > I took some photos in the rain to compare the SL with the R19/2.8, > > > the SL with the 35/2.0 Summicron and the M240 with the Summicron. > > > As I was carrying the cameras out to the deck, I passed the > > > kitchen scale so I weighed them. The SL with no lens weighed 966 grams. > > > The M240 with the > > > 35/2.0 attached weighed 961 grams, so not a huge difference. > > > > > > When I attach the M lenses, the SL automatically recognized the > > > coded lenses with no further attention from me. When I attach the > > > R lenses, I go to the menu and tell it which R lens is attached. > > > It recognizes the lens but does not record the correct aperture. > > > I know I took several at F/8 and used hyperfocal focusing, but > > > none of them came up as having f/8 for the aperture. > > > > > > The SL is much easier to focus. I tried out both the magnifying > > > in the EVF and the focus peaking. Both work fine but the > > > magnified EVF is much easier to see. You press the bottom right > > > button once and it zooms to 100% in the EVF, press it twice and it zooms to 200%. > > > Focus and touch the shutter button and it zooms back out and takes > > > the > photo. > > > > > > With the auto-focus SL lens, there are several focusing formats to > > > choose from in the SL and you can also touch the screen and have > > > it focus there or move the toggle switch (they call it the > > > joystick) next to the EFG to choose a focus spot. I find the > > > screen and the toggle switch to be easiest and fastest. But these > > > are all manually focused with M and R lenses. > > > > > > The first one is an experiment with the Noctilux last night using > > > the magnified EVF to focus on Tom's eyelashes instead of the > > > glasses > frame. > > > > > > http://www.pbase.com/image/161961923 > > > > > > The next three are straight from the camera as DNGs, converted to > > > jpegs as they are exported with no other adjustments. > > > > > > Leica SL with 19/2.8 Elmarit R: > > > > > > http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/161961755 > > > > > > Leica SL with 35/2.0 Summicron M: > > > > > > http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/161961757 > > > > > > Leica M240 with 35/2.0 Summicron M: > > > > > > http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/161961758 > > > > > > I did some bracketed exposures and merged the photos for HDR with > > > each camera and each lens. These are adjusted for color and exposure: > > > > > > *http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/leica_sl&page=7 > > > <http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/leica_sl&page=7>* > > > > > > The SL will also bracket the 3 exposures as DNGs and make a merged > > > jpeg from them automatically. I found those needed more adjusting > > > than making them myself. > > > > > > What do you think? > > > > > > Tina > > >