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Subject: [Leica] IMGS: Comparing SL and M240 and 19R and Noctilux
From: john at mcmaster.fr (John McMaster)
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2015 22:33:42 +0100
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A more useful test is where the subject is near infinity and should be in
focus, see what the corners look like with the 35/2.0, that is where the SL
may be weaker than the M... Tripods are the only way to do decent A-B
testing, that is not real photography ;-)

john

-----Original Message-----

I hate tripods.  I did put the camera on the rail of the porch. I'd be glad
to send anybody a full DNG or blow up any section to 100% and post it.
You are probably right about the lens weight; however, I did carry around a
Canon 1DMII with an 85/1.2 lens for over a year before Leica finally came
out with a digital camera.  That combination weighs 2623 grams and is not
nearly as easy to handle as the SL and 24-90 at 2095 grams.

Tina

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 4:24 PM, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.fr> wrote:

> That you could/should have used a tripod to get similar framing ;-) 
> You, looking at the DNGs, are the only one who is likely to see a real 
> difference..... There will be no native SL lens weighing less than 
> twice (more likely 3x) the weight of a 35/2.0....
>
> john
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> I took some photos in the rain to compare the SL with the R19/2.8, the 
> SL with the 35/2.0 Summicron and the M240 with the Summicron.  As I 
> was carrying the cameras out to the deck, I passed the kitchen scale 
> so I weighed them.  The SL with no lens weighed 966 grams.  The M240 
> with the
> 35/2.0 attached weighed 961 grams, so not a huge difference.
>
> When I attach the M lenses, the SL automatically recognized the coded 
> lenses with no further attention from me.  When I attach the R lenses, 
> I go to the menu and tell it which R lens is attached.  It recognizes 
> the lens but does not record the correct aperture.  I know I took 
> several at F/8 and used hyperfocal focusing, but none of them came up 
> as having f/8 for the aperture.
>
> The SL is much easier to focus.  I tried out both the magnifying in 
> the EVF and the focus peaking.  Both work fine but the magnified EVF 
> is much easier to see.  You press the bottom right button once and it 
> zooms to 100% in the EVF, press it twice and it zooms to 200%.  Focus 
> and touch the shutter button and it zooms back out and takes the photo.
>
> With the auto-focus SL lens, there are several focusing formats to 
> choose from in the SL and  you can also touch the screen and have it 
> focus there or move the toggle switch (they call it the joystick) next 
> to the EFG to choose a focus spot.  I find the screen and the toggle 
> switch to be easiest and fastest.  But these are all manually focused 
> with M and R lenses.
>
> The first one is an experiment with the Noctilux last night using the 
> magnified EVF to focus on Tom's eyelashes instead of the glasses frame.
>
> http://www.pbase.com/image/161961923
>
> The next three are straight from the camera as DNGs, converted to 
> jpegs as they are exported with no other adjustments.
>
> Leica SL with 19/2.8 Elmarit R:
>
> http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/161961755
>
> Leica SL with 35/2.0 Summicron M:
>
> http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/161961757
>
> Leica M240 with 35/2.0 Summicron M:
>
> http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/161961758
>
> I did some bracketed exposures and merged the photos for HDR with each 
> camera and each lens.  These are adjusted for color and exposure:
>
> *http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/leica_sl&page=7
> <http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/leica_sl&page=7>*
>
> The SL will also bracket the 3 exposures as DNGs and make a merged 
> jpeg from them automatically.  I found those needed more adjusting 
> than making them myself.
>
> What do you think?
>
> Tina
>




Replies: Reply from images at comporium.net (Tina Manley) ([Leica] IMGS: Comparing SL and M240 and 19R and Noctilux)
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