Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2015/11/25
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Agreed, Howard, those unicorn gallstones, especially the ones made by the virgins from Raqqa are very overrated. All that money spent, and they probably want to play rubbish too... Douglas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard Ritter" <hlritter at bex.net> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [Leica] XP-2 > Audiophools philes addicted to equipment porn. Hardly better than some > Leicaphools philes. No one on this list, of course! > > Has anyone ever seen even an attempt at an engineering justification of > these baubles that explains what $2000 (or even $0.02) benefit comes from > making the last 2m of the AC power chain out of sintered unicorn > gallstones while leaving the hundreds of miles of exposed, weathered > lines, coming thru multiple substations and transformers, interconnected > to all manner of noisy users, from the power plant to the mains socket > untouched? Or a blinded A/B test between one of these and the factory > cord? > > ?howard > > >> On Nov 25, 2015, at 2:58 PM, Ken Carney <kcarney1 at cox.net> wrote: >> >> $500 doesn't buy much of a power cord :). >> http://www.essentialsound.com/essence-power-cord/ >> >> Ken >> >> On 11/25/2015 1:22 PM, Bill Pearce wrote: >>> No you're missing out on the meaningless bullshit. It's like guys that >>> think their stereo sounds better with a $500 power cord from the amp to >>> the wall, but are clueless about the wires from the wall to the breaker >>> box to the street. It's like the monks arguing over the number of angels >>> on the head of a pin. I was just thinking, as I read the business about >>> Samsung exiting the camera business how things have changed. I think >>> that today you can get results from FF/APS/MFT that are more than good >>> enough for anyone. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- From: Dante Stella >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 12:48 PM >>> To: Leica Users Group >>> Subject: Re: [Leica] XP-2 >>> >>> Does a 1/3 stop even make a difference? Or is 320 a lucky number that >>> people remember from TXP120? Serious question. >>> >>> I see references everywhere to rating 400 film of various types at 320, >>> and it seems a bit strange because few film cameras are accurate and >>> consistent enough to predict a blanket rule with an almost insignificant >>> amount of overexposure. Virtually anything with a leaf shutter is >>> already overexposing by at least that much -- meaning that "320" really >>> means 250, and 2/3 stop is much more noticeable than 1/3. And with all >>> mechanical shutters, each speed can have a different error in a >>> different direction. The other thing is that C-41 processing, at least >>> commercial processing, is not that consistent either. >>> >>> And having put a densitometer to silver negatives exposed at one-third >>> stop increments with very accurate electronic shutters, it does not tend >>> to drag meaningful detail out of the toe. And it makes zero difference >>> to tones on a straight-line film like TMY. Maybe things are different >>> with XP2, but even eyeballing its curve, it seems doubtful that (an >>> actual) 1/3 stop would do very much. >>> >>> Or maybe I'm missing the magic here? I take the suggestion seriously >>> coming from you, but it still seems slightly superstitious. >>> >>> Best, >>> Dante >>> >>>> On Nov 25, 2015, at 12:35 PM, Paul Roark <roark.paul at gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Overexposure lowers grain but also lowers contrast. I used 320 most. >>>> You >>>> can use the typical negative film approach -- expose for the shadows >>>> and >>>> let the highlights go where they may. It's hard to burn them out with >>>> that >>>> film. >>>> >>>> Paul >>>> www.PaulRoark.com >>>> >>>>> On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 9:27 AM, Bryk Oliver <oliverbryk at >>>>> comcast.net> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> How should I rate XP-2 if none of the images will be printed? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for any advice based on experience, >>>>> >>>>> Oliver >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information