Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2015/10/30

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Subject: [Leica] Friday Firearms
From: mark at (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 23:49:33 -0400

Sue, I hope if you post a picture on the LUG which happens to have a gun in
it will have like Tina's shot some saving grace  some reason to have clicked
the shutter other than there is a gun in the frame.
This is a very weak pointless  grab shot of lady shooting a gun. A gun which
which is aimed just off frame.  There's pretty much nothing in the picture
which warrants clicking the shutter other than there is a gun in it which
will provoke people on a the camera list which you are on especially if you
title the thread  glibly" Friday Firearms". Is there some guy in the
background out of focus somewhere? Didn't notice him.

On 10/30/15 11:04 PM, "Sue Ryan" <skalte at> wrote:

> Agreed. Personally, I would be motivated to make such an image BECAUSE I 
> was
> so appalled by it.
> Susan
> Sent from my iPhone
>> On Oct 30, 2015, at 8:04 PM, Montie <montoid at> wrote:
>> Well put, Mitchell.
>> Montie
>>>> Why should everything be explained? Is it not acceptable to have some
>> mystery or vagueness to the image?
>> If a person documents an event or group, does that imply he or she is a
>> "blank" nut? 
>> It is fair to not like the photo but I think it's unfair to assume 
>> anyone's
>> position on firearms or other topics just on the basis that they took a
>> photo of it.
>> Mitchell
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> On Oct 30, 2015, at 15:06, Mark Rabiner <mark at> wrote:
>>> Its a meaningless (boring)  and crass image with a gun in it.
>>> If there was a sign on the back wall what said " fundraiser for a
>>> children's
>>> medical support agency "  it might make it vaguely interesting because of
>>> the irony for those who read English. Other than that it has to be
>>> explained
>>> in a caption.
>>> Gun nuts doing their gun thing on the Lug has been always been shot down
>>> I've long been glad to see.
>>> Its not about image making. Its not about cameras. Its about guns.
>>> Find a gun list. Show them your guns. Look at theirs. The rest of the
>>> civilized world is appalled.
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Mark William Rabiner

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