Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2015/10/22
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I don't know about not going for the pro market. At least this one is full frame, the initial lens is 24-90, fast 50 mm coming, longer available soon (not interesting to me). I'm going to try it. I'm getting old enough that I need auto-focus in some situations (most situations). I would love to have a Leica rangefinder M camera, using all of my old Leica M lenses, but with auto-focus. That doesn't seem to be possible. Maybe this is the next best solution? Tina On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 5:02 PM, Leo Wesson <leowesson at gmail.com> wrote: > I am not really sure what the marketing group at Leica is thinking > here...they clearly aren't going for the pro market...no lenses, no long > lenses...for at least how many years? > I guess it's another form of Leica Jewlery. > > I'm like Tina, if it's a new Leica camera, I'm usually on it, well maybe > not quite as fast as Tina...but I have no desire to buy one of these SL's. > > I speak from ignorance, I have only read what y'all have read, haven't had > a face to face with one yet... > > Leo Wesson > Photographer/Videographer > 817.733.9157 > www.leowesson.com > > On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote: > > > Aram - The innards of the SL are based on the Q, supposedly. > > > > Tina > > > > On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 3:35 PM, Aram Langhans <leica_r8 at hotmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > I agree with you, Steve. I handled one for about 30 minutes and loved > > > it. It felt good, the viewfinder was better than the Sony easily, or > my > > > wife's Olumpus. Maybe as good as the Fuji XT1. I found it a very > > > enjoyable camera. I was really hoping the new Leica was going to be > > based > > > on the Q. > > > > > > Aram > > > > > > Aram Langhans > > > (Semi) Retired Science Teacher > > > & Unemployed photographer > > > > > > ?The Human Genome Project has proved Darwin more right than Darwin > > himself > > > would ever have dared dream.? James D. Watson > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Steve Barbour [mailto:steve.barbour at gmail.com] > > > Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 7:26 AM > > > To: LUG list <lug at leica-users.org> > > > Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica announces SL (Typ 601), a 24MP full frame > > > mirrorless capable of 11fps and 4K video > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 22, 2015, at 5:27 AM, Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I tried a Q at Leica in New York and the minute I picked it up, I > > > > hated it. I cannot hold a camera out and take a photo and looking > > > > through the viewfinder made me sick to my stomach. It's also too > > > > light and plasticky feeling for me. > > > > > > > > > I really can?t agree with this Tina. I do not understand what you are > > > after. While it feels fine to me, it does not feel like a brick, it?s > > > simply not a brick. > > > > > > > > > steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tina > > > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 7:25 PM, Steve Barbour > > > > <steve.barbour at gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> The Q is great, why not a Q with interchangeable lenses, still a > lot > > > >> better than a rangefinder. Nikon and Canon are trying to come down > > > >> in size, so why just now is Leica wanting to go bigger? > > > >> > > > >> Sent from my iPhone > > > >> > > > >>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 4:14 PM, Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> > wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>> I've told my Leica guy that I'm having second thoughts after > reading > > > >>> this > > > >>> review: > > > >>> > > > >> > http://leicarumors.com/2015/10/20/the-leica-sl-typ-601-camera-review- > > > >> leica-gambles-big.aspx/ > > > >>> > > > >>> If I bought an SL and then Leica came out with an actual M with > > > >> autofocus, > > > >>> I would be very, very upset. A new M is rumored. I'm going to > Iran > > > >>> in April and was hoping for an autofocus camera before then. > > > >>> Chances are > > > >> slim > > > >>> and none, I guess. > > > >>> > > > >>> Tina > > > >>> > > > >>>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 7:08 PM, Scott Gregory > > > >>>> <scottgregory at mac.com> > > > >> wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Thoughts from Luminous Landscape today on SL > > > >>>> > > > >>>> "The other main concern which I have is the user interface. The SL > > > >>>> is > > > >> very > > > >>>> similar to the S in this regard, which means that there are > > > >>>> unlabeled > > > >> soft > > > >>>> keys surrounding the rear LCD that make quick settings and > > > >>>> navigation time-consuming and non-intuitive. I found the new S > very > > > >>>> difficult to > > > >> come > > > >>>> to terms with for this reason, and I would expect the SL to not be > > > >>>> much different." > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Scott > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 6:55 PM, Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Yes. That drove me crazy with the many, many focus points you > > > >>>>> could > > > >>>> choose > > > >>>>> with the Canon DSLRs. I'm hoping Leica has solved that. I would > > > >> settle > > > >>>>> for a "focus on the center and recompose" solution. You could do > > > >>>>> that > > > >>>> with > > > >>>>> the Canon but it wasn't intuitive or easy! Too many buttons and > > > >>>>> wheels > > > >>>> and > > > >>>>> choices. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Tina > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 6:51 PM, Robert Baron > > > >>>>> <robertbaron1 at gmail.com> > > > >>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> ===On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Tina Manley > > > >>>>>> <tmanley at gmail.com> > > > >>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Autofocus. My eyes are getting older by the minute. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Tina > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 5:40 PM, Nathan Wajsman < > > > >> photo at frozenlight.eu> > > > >>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> But why?don?t you already have the M240, the Monochrom etc.?so > > > >>>>>>>> what > > > >> is > > > >>>>>>> the > > > >>>>>>>> point of this one? > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Cheers, > > > >>>>>>>> Nathan > > > >>>>>> I have the same problem, Tina, but in my experience I have a > > > >>>>>> tough > > > >> time > > > >>>>>> convincing autofocus to focus on what I want it to focus on. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> --Bob > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > > > >>>>>> Leica Users Group. > > > >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > > > >>>>>> information > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> -- > > > >>>>> Tina Manley > > > >>>>> www.tinamanley.com > > > >>>>> tina-manley.artistwebsites.com > > > >>>>> > > > >>>> > > > >> > http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C9 > > > >> 37AA91/Tina+Manley.html > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > > > >>>>> Leica Users Group. > > > >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > > > >>>>> information > > > >>>> > > > >>>> _______________________________________________ > > > >>>> Leica Users Group. > > > >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > > > >>>> information > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> -- > > > >>> Tina Manley > > > >>> www.tinamanley.com > > > >>> tina-manley.artistwebsites.com > > > >>> > > > >> > http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C9 > > > >> 37AA91/Tina+Manley.html > > > >>> > > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > > >>> Leica Users Group. > > > >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > information > > > >> > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > >> Leica Users Group. > > > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > information > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Tina Manley > > > > www.tinamanley.com > > > > tina-manley.artistwebsites.com > > > > > http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C93 > > > > 7AA91/Tina+Manley.html > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Leica Users Group. > > > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Leica Users Group. > > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Tina Manley > > www.tinamanley.com > > tina-manley.artistwebsites.com > > > > > http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > -- Tina Manley www.tinamanley.com tina-manley.artistwebsites.com http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html