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Subject: [Leica] August 29th Apocalyptic Dysphoria; Pictures on your watch.
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2015 17:57:43 -0400

I like an old person watch. The kind with Tommy Tell time hands. When it
says its 19 minutes to 7 o'clock I can see how much of the hour I have left.
Cant do that with a row of numbers. Cant visualize that as well.


On 9/2/15 5:45 PM, "Herbert Kanner" <kanner at acm.org> wrote:

> A friend found a nice Casio for a bit under $100 that sets itself from the
> NIST broadcasts, and has the usual extra set of features like chronogaph.
> Myself, I?m sticking to Timex. I?ve and very good luck with a number of 
> them.
> Because of hearing loss, the sounds, like alarm and countdown timer are no
> longer useful. But I definitely use the chronograph with the choice of 
> ?split?
> or ?lap? display, and also use the ?night light? feature, which causes the
> light to come on for a few seconds as the result of any button
> push.

Herb


Herbert Kanner
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> On Sep 2, 2015, at 2:25 PM,
> Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
> 
> A lot of people don't need
> and excuse to look at their iPhone. They'd prefer
> to be looking at it every
> minute and be walking down the sidewalk looking at
> it and be driving their
> car looking at it.  I like to put it in my pocket
> and not look at it for
> five or ten  minutes at a time. Give it a chance to
> cool down
> 
> 
> On
> 8/30/15 9:29 PM, "Bob Adler" <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> When I retired I
> took my watch off and put it in a drawer. If I want the
>> time, I look at my
> iPhone.
>> I don't miss it one bit: it's liberating. I don't care what time it
> is or
>> what day it is. If I need to make an appointment, I look at my
> iPhone.
>> Free at last, free at last...
>> It's all about your frame of mind
> I guess...
>> 
>> On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 5:48 PM, Mark Rabiner
> <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Its confusing perhaps the apple watch
> coming in two sizes and there is the
>>> pixel size vs. the millimeter size of
> both. I'm betting that had Dick Tracy
>>> had the option he'd have gone with a
> smaller dial size. That thing had to
>>> get in the way when he was collaring
> a perp... get  caught on something.
>>> Coincidently I'm down a watch.  There
> is no watch on my wrist for a month
>>> now this is a new first a new low I
> was saving for a new lens now I'm
>>> saving
>>> for a new laptop.
>>> I have
> like a lot of people (guys?) a cigarbox filled with cheap watches
>>> which
> don't work. The question being which one to bring in and try to get
>>> fixed
> and for how much? This is complicated by living in NYC with everyone
>>> sworn
> to rip you off like the dog which you are.
>>> Getting one fixed cost the same
> as fixing an old one would be the thing.
>>> The
>>> thing which has made for
> a cigar box filled with mystery watches  (what
>>> went
>>> wrong with this
> one?)
>>> All I really want is a Timex like I had as a kid in the 50's (in
> NY). To
>>> get
>>> one I need a Time machine you sit in and a big wheel goes
> round and round
>>> as
>>> designed by George Pal.
>>> Using an iPhone for a
> pocket watch is very common right not but its not me.
>>> I'm a watch
> guy.
>>> I want something on my wrist which shows me the time and looks like
> a
>>> watch.
>>> It dos not have to light up and say "kiss me baby".
>>> The
> step counter in my iPhone I find to be quite a deal changer since May
>>> I've
> done well with it its called Pacer and like many things free it acts
>>> like
> it. I've lost a ton of weight and can see clearly when I'm sloughing
>>> off
> or being erratic and by how much.
>>> I need something which cost real money
> and works really with an interface
>>> not designed by a mouseketeer. .
>>> A
> Fitbit on my wrist might be the thing. Or another of the dozen brands.
>>>
> They all look like watches. I guessing they are watches.
>>> My price point is
> $99.
>>> When its overcast my sundial does not work so well.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On
> 8/30/15 7:49 PM, "Jim Nichols" <jhnichols at lighttube.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>
> Mark,
>>>> 
>>>> What you are quoting is the overall case size.  The screen
> size on the
>>>> large one is slightly larger than 24x30mm, and they show an
> add whereby
>>>> the entire screen is filled with thumbnails, so I assume you
> can display
>>>> a single image to that size.
>>>> 
>>>> Jim Nichols
>>>>
> Tullahoma, TN USA
>>>> 
>>>> On 8/30/2015 6:05 PM, Mark Rabiner wrote:
>>>>>
> The apple watch shows you an image just slightly larger than an
>>>
> individual
>>>>> image in a 35mm contact sheet.  Around 40mm long.
>>>>>
> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 8/29/15 10:48 PM, "Jim Nichols" <jhnichols at lighttube.net>
> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> During the depression years of the 1930s, the Direct
> Positive "4 for a
>>>>>> dime" pictures served that purpose.  They were
> inexpensive and filled a
>>>>>> need at the time.  I still have a few of
> them.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jim Nichols
>>>>>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On
> 8/29/2015 9:43 PM, Mark Rabiner wrote:
>>>>>>> I have a photo history book and
> they are talking about
>>> Daguerreotypes  also
>>>>>>> Tintypes being made 1
> inch square or smaller and the size was called
>>> "Gem".
>>>>>>> The little
> gems that they were. I think often copied from a larger
>>> image.
>>>>>>> The
> issue being I think not size but the bottom line. Money.
>>>>>>> Shrink it
> till they feel they can afford it. So what if they cant see
>>> it.
>>>>>>>
> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 8/29/15 10:25 PM, "Jim Nichols" <jhnichols at lighttube.net>
> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I have no interest at all in the watch.  It may be
> handy for
>>> reminders,
>>>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Images that size
> remind me of the stickpin portrait that my
>>> great-great
>>>>>>>> aunt had
> of her dead husband.  It was sepia, and about the size of a
>>>>>>>> "pinky"
> nail.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Jim Nichols
>>>>>>>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>>>>>>>>
> 
>>>>>>>> On 8/29/2015 9:19 PM, Mark Rabiner wrote:
>>>>>>>>> The point of the
> small screen is to just see what you can see and
>>> not
>>>>>>>>>
> care
>>>>>>>>> about what you can't. The point is instant ness and ease.
> IPhone
>>>>>>>>> photography
>>>>>>>>> has established that. Most won't take
> it from there. Now if you
>>> could
>>>>>>>>> project the image like a clock
> radio on the ceiling....!! THEN you
>>> could
>>>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>>> how
> really bad it is.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 8/29/15 10:13 PM, "Jim
> Nichols" <jhnichols at lighttube.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I realize
> that, Leo, but have not really looked into what can be
>>> seen on
>>>>>>>>>>
> the small screen.  I'm not sure my eyes would work with details
>>>
> that
>>>>>>>>>> small. :-)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Jim Nichols
>>>>>>>>>>
> Tullahoma, TN USA
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 8/29/2015 9:10 PM, Leowesson
> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Jim,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> The Iwatch acts as a remote
> for the iPhone it is paired with.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Leo
> Wesson
>>>>>>>>>>> leowesson.com
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 29, 2015, at
> 21:01, Jim Nichols <jhnichols at lighttube.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have to admit that I have
> gone part way down that route.  In
>>> order
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>
> conveniently use text messaging, I recently purchased an iPhone.
>>>
> Now,
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> camera is quite good, but I don't like the
> images as they come
>>> out of
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> camera.  I run
> them through my editing workflow like any other
>>> camera
>>>>>>>>>>>>
> images, except they are jpg, which limits the process.  Finished
>>>>>>>>>>>>
> images
>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty good.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>
> Now, the second part.  I have my LUG gallery bookmarked.  If I
>>> want
> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> share
>>>>>>>>>>>> an image or two with a friend or relative,
> I just open up my LUG
>>>>>>>>>>>> gallery
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> touch
> the thumbnails along the side until I find what I want.
>>> It
> has
>>>>>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>>>>> quite useful, and, on the iPhone 6 screen,
> the images look pretty
>>>>>>>>>>>> good,
>>>>>>>>>>>> though limited in
> size.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Incidentally, my grandson's wife has an Apple
> watch, and likes
>>> it. I
>>>>>>>>>>>> haven't
>>>>>>>>>>>> asked if it can
> do images.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jim Nichols
>>>>>>>>>>>> Tullahoma, TN
> USA
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/29/2015 8:33 PM, Mark Rabiner
> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> One of the rare occasions in which Brian got involved in
> a
>>> thread way
>>>>>>>>>>>>> way
>>>>>>>>>>>>> back in the turn of the
> century or millennium  we were talking
>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> demise of craft and print making and how things were going
> the
>>> way of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> jpeg and people not showing you
> their prints but showing you
>>> their
>>>>>>>>>>>>> jpegs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a small screen like from an iPod. (a thing which played
> music)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Someone
>>>>>>>>>>>>> joked maybe it was me that soon
> we'd be viewing each others pix
>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> Dick
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tracy wrist watches and that was shot down as being too
>>>
> Apocalyptic
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dysphoric. I wonder if its still in the
> archives?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the past few years when the iPhones took over and
> those
>>> screens
>>>>>>>>>>>>> became
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the main viewing ground
> for seeing sobodies photo work; it was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> looking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> bad
>>>>>>>>>>>>> but it got worse. The Apple watch came out and I've not
> seen
>>> one in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> person
>>>>>>>>>>>>> yet. But I was wondering if
> you can view pix on them. I just
>>> checked.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You
> can.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> http://www.apple.com/watch/built-in-apps/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "the
> smaller 38mm Apple Watch has a resolution of 272 x 340,
>>>
> while
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> larger 42mm Apple Watch has a resolution
> of 312 x 390. "  they
>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 40mm's in
> height.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So things will get dumbed down even further. Or they
> already
>>> have.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If things can get worse but I think it would
> have to start with
>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apple
>>>>>>>>>>>>> iGlass.  Little
> high tech eye glasses.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So when it used to be people were really
> listening to you
>>> talking to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead of
> their little earphone  ( just happened in the apple
>>> store)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> now
>>>>>>>>>>>>> its not just not you they are listening to. They're not
> seeing
>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> either.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> They are watching the
> readout. What Arnold saw in T1.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> * The system goes
> online August 4th, 1997. Human decisions are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> removed
>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>> strategic defense. Skynet begins to
> learn at a geometric rate.
>>> It
>>>>>>>>>>>>> becomes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. In a panic,
>>>
> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>> try
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> pull the
> plug.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sarah Connor: Skynet fights back.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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