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Subject: [Leica] The Q Leica
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 21:55:40 -0400

When I get a new camera system I don't trade for it. I just get it.
After Nikon and Rolleiflex I got into Hasselblad. Then Leica.
I didn't trade for them I just got them. I had to save up money or had a
windfall. In the end I had several camera systems to use for any situation.
Just like any other photographer I ever knew. Who had a fraction of the gear
that the rich guy photo enthusiasts I knew had.
I'm not a trader. I'm a user. I buy camera with money not other cameras.


On 6/10/15 1:46 PM, "Steve Barbour" <steve.barbour at gmail.com> wrote:

> planning to trade in the Nikon, and buy a Q and a Sony RX1 too ?

It?s
> time?

s





> On Jun 10, 2015, at 10:14 AM, Nathan Wajsman
> <nwajsman at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> So you?re gonna buy one I take it?
> 
> That
> way you will finally have some hands on experience with the digital Leicas 
> of
> which you know so much already.
> 
> Nathan Wajsman
> 
> Alicante, Spain
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>> On 10 Jun 2015, at 17:48, Mark Rabiner
> <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm thinking if you made a 13x19 inch
> print with your M and hung another one
>> same size right next to it made with
> the also full frame Q the quality would
>> very possibly not be at all lacking
> when you are looking at those two prints
>> side to side.  You might just be
> looking at matching image quality.
>> Leica won't sell lenes as a result of a
> Q sale but those puppies will fly
>> out the Am Leitz Park faster than the
> M's. Soon everybody will have one in
>> their coat pocket. Problem is summer
> is upon us.
>> 
>> 
>> On 6/10/15 11:02 AM, "Mark Rabiner"
> <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> The Q Leica is out and I'm excited.
>>>
> Its a direct response to the full frame Sony DSC-RX1  compact 
> rangefinder>>>
> camera which came out September 12, 2012 and didn't create a new market
>>>
> niche as I thought it would. It has stood alone. One thing hipster 
> camera>>>
> buyers really don't care about is the bottom line image quality so they
>>>
> revert to cropped $999 formats  a thing I'll do when the camera can be
> worn
>>> as a tie clip. And go off by itself when I wink my left eye.
>>> The
> new Q is very much like the RX1 in that the lens is an all out assault
>>>
> taking no prisoners approach with compactness not being one of the first
>>>
> parameters oddly enough on a compact camera. So it becomes quite an effete
>>>
> item with this amazing chuck of glass on the front of it making for a much
>>>
> bigger pocket you'd get to slide it in. I'd have done the opposite and put
> a
>>> collapsible 3.5 on the front of it or 2.8 like on Rollie 35. And not
> have it
>>> be a mini monster. The point of the camera is that its with you .
> Taking
>>> better pix by far than your cell phone.
>>> Selling for 4 and
> quarter grand $ if it slows down sales on M's Leica won't
>>> be loosing any
> money.
>>> I'd kill for one. If there's a dead body on the sidewalk with a Q
> missing
>>> you'll know I  did it. If you buy one I'd walk on well lit streets
> in public
>>> places. And put a blonde mustache on your glasses nose.
>>> 
>>>
> With big drum rolls Leica in the past years introduced a couple of 
> camera>>>
> systems which they said would put a dent in what pros used for their
>>>
> photography. They were not a response to the Sony RX1. The Sony RX1 
> could>>>
> take them to the cleaners as these were cropped cameras and no one 
> thinks>>>
> the results we get from an M or a DSLR is going to be threatened by a
>>>
> cropped camera. Its apples and oranges. Or as the French say Apples and
>>>
> Pears.... In this cropped camera cast aluminum with an iPhone interface.
>>>
> The Q will be a camera which will made with results not overshadowed by
> the
>>> M system just like a Rollei 35 did against any full sized 35mm camera.
> Why?
>>> The format was the same. Plus Zeiss glass. Just don't jerk the camera
> when
>>> you take the picture.
>>> Leica was in no hurry to do this. As its
> taken years. I think they know now
>>> for sure they're in this for the long
> haul.
>>> But doing it is a smart move became if there is a company which is
> making a
>>> compact full frame rangefinder top quality competitive to full
> sized cameras
>>> it should be Leica. Leica is the company which invented
> quality compact
>>> photography. It should not be the company which finds it
> ill advised as we
>>> mustn't compete with ourselves.
>>> 
>>> By the way  I
> just read the whole time the Sony has been out which is almost
>>> 3 years no
> firmware fixes to some quirky issues.
>>> BAD Sony!
>>> Lets see if they
> respond to Leica. Or if any body else does. I'd love to see
>>> a third full
> frame compact rangefinder in the camera store.
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>>
> Mark William Rabiner
>> Photographer
>>
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>> 
>> 
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