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Subject: [Leica] Critiques
From: tedgrant at shaw.ca (Ted Grant)
Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 09:59:28 -0700
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Hi CREW,
I try to have a quick look at nearly all picture postings.  And yes I have
bitten a  poster on occasion rather cuttingly. As though I'm the Photo
Editor of a wire service, news paper or magazine where I have had real life
experience coping with professional shooters. 

On the LUG? Usually from a newbie? Or along that kind of situation and in
private! Or received in return a nice thank you on private line and we've
continued the critique on occasion! Makes a guy feel good when you know the
poster has appreciated time in answering and possibly being helpful. 

THEN??????????????????? you have what appears as a comment not worth quoting
on one's ability as a photojournalist with over 60 years on the firing lines
of life about the world. 8 Books published and 16 years as the lead lecturer
at the LEICA INTERNATIONAL SEMINAR on Cape Cod. I just delete and shrug my
shoulders and leave it be. With a quiet little sigh to myself. 

It doesn't matter whomever the poster is? "INCLUDING ME!!!!!" We as
photographers are never so good. No matter whomever you are? Or think you
are? Once in a while a wee bit of a smack on the side of the head? Or a nice
pat on the on the back isn't helpful!

I'm far more inclined to have critiques good, bad or ugly simply because we
continue to learn! WHY? 
KISS! None of us are so perfect that eyes of an another at times, can't be
helpful!

cheers,
Dr. ted  :-)





-----Original Message-----
From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On Behalf 
Of
Steve Barbour
Sent: May-04-15 8:19 AM
To: Leica LUG
Subject: Re: [Leica] Critiques


> On May 4, 2015, at 6:27 AM, Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I am not sure of my shots before I post.
> Tina



Tina,

you post many truly wonderful images to this forum. I am struggling along
with 

many, please help us out. This may be helpful, in a quite tangible way.

If you are not sure of your shots before you post, it is important to 

understand what exactly makes you sure after you post ...?



This chapter is like 20 blind men trying to describe an elephant.


Steve




> 
> On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 10:18 PM, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.nz>
wrote:
> 
>> I am not sure what you are expecting, I post shots which I think are
>> worthy of viewing and others can comment if they want. I am sure of my
>> choices before I post and that is usually backed up but often no
comments,
>> does not stop me posting - or maybe I am missing the hint ;-)
>> 
>> I do not do FB and the comments I see on Flickr are not worth the time to
>> read.....
>> 
>> john
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> 
>> 
>> So what is the answer to getting no response at all from the e-mail
lists?
>> The reason I post is to get feedback.  If I don't get it, there is no
>> reason to post.  When I post on various Facebook pages, Leica ones
>> especially, I get lots of hits and responses.  Why not here?
>> 
>> Tina
>> 
>> On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 8:56 PM, Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I am noticing that I get a lot more response and critiques when I post
>>> a photo on Facebook in addition to posting it here.  I have noticed
>>> the same with other regular posters.  When they post something on FB
>>> there are many views and comments, but posted on the e-mail groups
>>> there are no comments at all.  Should we stop posting here and just post
>> on FB?
>>> 
>>> I would hate that but what do you think?
>>> 
>>> Tina
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Tina Manley
>>> www.tinamanley.com
>>> tina-manley.artistwebsites.com
>>> 
>>> http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C93
>>> 7AA91/Tina+Manley.html
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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