Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2015/03/21
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]> On Mar 21, 2015, at 1:20 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: > > Absolutely Steve. > Image on the fly is a French idiom for snap shots I think. > - it means the exact opposite idea of what we think Decisive Moment means. > Which is waiting for a magic moment to happen while standing up against a > wall pretending to be invisible with a camera. > It means what HCB and other photogs then and now really did and do which is > to shoot the hell out of everything and take no prisoners. sure, when he had something worth shooting, otherwise that approach is not French?. I appreciate his use of classic french irony, and I do believe HCB took many photos at times, but I also believe he very much appreciated the thought?.. ?it?s not what you shoot, it?s what you show? steve > > But the English term The Decisive Moment became so important for HCB that > he > seemed to try to incorporated it into his writings and interviews. > I think he had fun with confusing people. > > > > > On 3/21/15 3:43 PM, "Steve Barbour" <steve.barbour at gmail.com> wrote: > >> it seems important to appreciate that the original title of >> Cartier-Bresson's famous book was "Images a la Savette", meaning something >> like Images on the Fly. The English version of the title was changed to >> The Decisive Moment, to sell books. >> >> Steve >> >> On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> >> wrote: >> >>> More people should see the video I saw in San Francisco of HCB shooting >>> in >>> a crowd with a screw mount. I cant find it on Utube. He was shooting a >>> picture every two seconds and winding to the next from with a quick flip >>> of >>> his thumb on the wheel. I tell the rapid advance lever first on the M3 >>> which >>> at first a double stroke would have done nothing but slow him down. >>> I'm saying this because of the supposed "decisive moment" thing that you >>> wait for. >>> HCB was not waiting for nothing. He was shooting everything that moved >>> and >>> a >>> few that were not. He was working it and covering it. >>> Some people on this list call this a mindless shotgun approach. >>> And it belies how photographers have always worked. Especially since roll >>> film. And perhaps even more especially since digital. >>> >>> People think that film makes us better more contemplative people. And the >>> decisive moment thing especially. >>> Well it didn't. Its double speak and weasel words. >>> >>> But If there's anything dumber than shooting one picture and walking >>> away >>> with a digital camera with 600 pix in the memory card I cant think of >>> what >>> it is. >>> That's not capturing an image its making it go away. >>> Been there done that. >>> >>> >>> On 3/21/15 1:31 PM, "Tina Manley" <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Thank God there are professional photographers on the list who know what >>> it >>>> means to have to come up with photos to pay the bills. >>>> >>>> Thanks, Ted, for understanding. >>>> >>>> Tina >>>> >>>> On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Ted Grant <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote: >>>> >>>>> John McMaster OFFERED: >>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Shoot less... ? >>>>> >>>>>>>> I have wondered that, I cannot imagine taking 16K shots in a few >>> weeks >>>>> without binning the vast majority (no good or repeats). I am a sparse >>>>> shooter (not sure if I have taken more than 200 shots in a day) but >>>>> with >>>>> what I regard as a high success rate.....<<<<<<<<<<< >>>>> >>>>> JOHN MON AMI, >>>>> Don't become a documentary photographer and have a "WHEAT HARVESTING >>>>> ASSIGNMENT!" That's everything LIFE to DEATH" OF A MONTH OR TWO on the >>>>> ground, in the air shooting aerials! The day is usually pre-sunrise >>> until >>>>> moon is up.............EVERYDAY! Ok so maybe a couple, you sleep in >>> until >>>>> 5.30 a.m.! :-) >>>>> >>>>> One never ever thinks about how many frames simply because you are >>>>> recording >>>>> a "PHOTO ESSAY" covering everything that occurs lives/dies during the >>> month >>>>> or two! >>>>> >>>>> That includes the "field mice or gophers to filling the tractor fuel >>> tanks >>>>> to the farmer's wife making/baking the meals.............. To tell and >>> show >>>>> "THE HARVESTING FARMERS LIFE CORRECTLY IS TO SHOOT EVERYTHING FROM >>> BIRTH TO >>>>> DEATH!" Every single moment while you are on the assignment. And the >>> LIFE >>>>> of >>>>> the DAY IS IN MOTION! >>>>> >>>>> The number of frames doesn't matter as long as you completely have your >>>>> "ASS >>>>> COVERED" in showing the complete story. Oh sure once in awhile you may >>> not >>>>> shoot a frame........... PROVIDING YOU ALREADY HAVE A SMASHING GREAT >>>>> SIMILAR >>>>> BEAUTY TAKEN AND BACKED-UP ON ANOTHER DRIVE, WHATEVER? Even then? If >>>>> you >>>>> are >>>>> motivated to "jeeeeesssshhh look at that?" FOR HEAVAN SAKE "SHOOT IT!" >>>>> A >>>>> "maybe similar looking image? But what the heck "SO WHAT?" Better to >>> have >>>>> it >>>>> in the can than find out later the back-up drive failed! :-( >>>>> >>>>> If one is on holiday or work there's no such thing as......... "DON'T >>> TAKE >>>>> TOO MANY!" If you have camera in hand and you are scene motivated? >>> "SHOOT >>>>> IT!" >>>>> Don't shoot too many? jeeeeeesh! >>>>> >>>>> cheers, >>>>> Dr. ted :-) >>>>> >>>>> john >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.co.nz at leica-users.org] >>>>> On >>>>> Behalf >>>>> Of Steve Barbour >>>>> Sent: Saturday, 21 March 2015 4:20 p.m. >>>>> To: Leica LUG >>>>> Subject: [Leica] Shoot less... ? >>>>> >>>>> Tina, a number of Luggers have suggested somehow showing less, ie being >>>>> selective.... >>>>> >>>>> Is it not true that this suggestion applies to shooting ? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> steve >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> Steve Barbour >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>>>> http://www.avast.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Mark William Rabiner >>> Photographer >>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >> >> > > > > > -- > Mark William Rabiner > Photographer > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information