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Subject: [Leica] URL: WSJ on Leica
From: richard at richardmanphoto.com (Richard Man)
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 13:32:54 -0700
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Frank, Leica Camera is not related to the other Leica companies...

On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 11:59 AM, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.nz> 
wrote:

> When it was released the competitors were Hasselblad and Mamiya/PhaseOne -
> neither are that big a company. The cost of ownership was similar across
> all three, the S may have been cheaper but with more expensive lenses. It
> is only since then that the Pentax 645D/Z has been released at a lower cost
> but the lenses are not in the same league. The S lens range has been
> expanded far quicker than the Hasselblad H range was and AFAIK the Leica
> lenses are better in each equivalent focal length....
>
> john
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> The cost of developing a new product such as the S family, with all the
> lenses,  is enormous.  They are charging an equally enormous (competitive
> pricing issue for the same functionality) amount for each item.
>
> Their competitors are huge ( company to company comparison), charging
> substantially less for the same functionality, and had  a large established
> base.  They discount heavily.  They are widely represented in the
> marketplace.  Leica is none of these.
>
>
> Frank Filippone
> Red735i at verizon.net
>
>
> ROI is more important than profit and unless you've got some inside
> information I'm not sure how you've determined it's a marketplace failure.
> All I've heard is that it's selling better than expectations, and I would
> imagine that the target ROI at the expected sales volume would be
> sufficient.
>
> Doug Herr
> Birdman of Sacramento
> http://www.wildlightphoto.com
> http://doug-herr.fineartamerica.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net>
> >Sent: Mar 14, 2015 11:04 PM
> >To: 'Leica Users Group' <lug at leica-users.org>
> >Subject: Re: [Leica] URL: WSJ on Leica
> >
> >I guess I was more focused on .... profits..... rather than optical
> >superiority.....
> >
> >Frank Filippone
> >Red735i at verizon.net
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+red735i=verizon.net at leica-users.org] On
> >Behalf Of John McMaster
> >Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2015 10:50 PM
> >To: Leica Users Group
> >Subject: Re: [Leica] URL: WSJ on Leica
> >
> >Really? It is regarded by most to have the best lenses available
> >(outside of technical cameras) and beats anything else I have used by a
> >large margin when it comes to results...
> >
> >john
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.co.nz at leica-users.org] On
> >Behalf Of Frank Filippone
> >Sent: Sunday, 15 March 2015 6:42 p.m.
> >To: 'Leica Users Group'
> >Subject: Re: [Leica] URL: WSJ on Leica
> >
> >Spinmeisters......
> >
> >I still do not believe the S series is or will be other than an
> >expensive marketplace failure..
> >
> >Frank Filippone
> >Red735i at verizon.net
> >
> >Doesn't say much, but passes a couple of minutes...
> >
> >http://www.wsj.com/articles/camera-maker-leica-survives-the-digital-shi
> >ft-14
> >26295228?mod=WSJ_hp_RightTopStories
> >
> >john
> >
> >
>
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Replies: Reply from red735i at verizon.net (Frank Filippone) ([Leica] URL: WSJ on Leica)
In reply to: Message from wildlightphoto at earthlink.net (Doug Herr) ([Leica] URL: WSJ on Leica)
Message from red735i at verizon.net (Frank Filippone) ([Leica] URL: WSJ on Leica)
Message from john at mcmaster.co.nz (John McMaster) ([Leica] URL: WSJ on Leica)