Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2015/03/01
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]When I'm out shooting with many people some of whom I meet here they check the back of their camera having just made a shot and its well over a stop over washed out and they go "looks perfect" and they're on to to the next subject. So its gotten so I think its human nature to think that stuff which is light is normal. But I do wonder how they print and the answer is they don't. But I do see a whole lot of light washed out (no blacks) images on web galleries and websites. Its not my monitor as I also see plenty of spot on images from very mainstream well thought of websites... Famous photogs etc. On 3/1/15 6:09 PM, "leo wesson" <leowesson at gmail.com> wrote: > Sorry, it ain't supposed to work that way. Ya'll are doing something > wrong. > > Leo Wesson > leowesson.com > >> On Mar 1, 2015, at 16:28, Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I now have 2 monitors: I have one darkened to match print output (I am >> actually trying to have a different profile on that monitor for the paper >> that I use) and one to work on for web viewing. I initially process for >> web >> viewing. I find that most times a simple pulling up on the middle of the >> curve adjustment in CC or LR works just fine for prints. Sometimes it gets >> more complicated. >> Bob >> >>> On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Aram Langhans <leica_r8 at hotmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Similar. I noticed that, too. No matter how I calibrate the monitor, >>> the >>> prints are always darker than the monitor. Whether I was printing >>> myself, >>> or using Costso. Since two outputs were giving me the same results, my >>> input must be at fault. So, then, I learned a few years ago to turn the >>> monitor down. I downloaded Color HCFR and got it to work with my Spyder >>> and found out the monitor was WAY to bright. The profile software for >>> Spyder did not adjust the monitor brightness. I had to turn my monitor >>> (Dell 1224 IPS) down to 17 to get to the recommended brightness. It >>> looks >>> pretty dark compared to my other monitor, but it works. Prints are dead >>> on >>> from monitor to my printer (R3000) or to Costco. The trend in consumer >>> monitors seems to be bright and saturated, but that does not translate >>> to a >>> standard print file, evidentially. >>> >>> so, try getting the HCFR Colorimeter program and see if you can get it to >>> work on your Monki. The crank that monitor brightness down. >>> >>> Aram >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "Robert Adler" <rgacpa at gmail.com> >>> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 4:02 PM >>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> >>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Prints are way too dark. Driven to distraction >>> >>> >>> Personally, I don't think your missing anything Lew. Even though these >>>> calibrations are supposed to calibrate for "luminance", I tend to turn >>>> my >>>> monitor down 2-4 stops to match a standard calibration chart that I've >>>> printed on my printer. Then I adjust in CC or LR on a monitor that has >>>> been >>>> darkened by the above process. Seems really dumb, but it works... >>>> Best, >>>> Bob >>>> PS-Please let me know if you find out differently! >>>> >>>> On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 2:02 PM, Lew Schwartz <lew1716 at gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I'm printing on Epson Proofing, using LR 5.7, Epson 4880, ViewSonic >>>>> monitor >>>>> and I've just re-profiled monitor and printer using colormunki, plus I >>>>> confirm that both monitor and printer are using the new profiles. The >>>>> resulting prints are aprox 2- 4 stops too dark. Too dark is an on going >>>>> problem for me, LR, the 4880 and this monitor; I expected things to get >>>>> better after the colormunki stuff. I've just been winging a solution in >>>>> the >>>>> past by using the exposure control in the LR develop module and the >>>>> brightness setting in the print module. Not a great solution, but >>>>> workable. >>>>> Now, with these new profiles, I'm not even close. WTF? Things are way >>>>> worse. What am I missing? >>>>> >>>>> -Lew Schwartz >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Bob Adler >>>> www.robertadlerphotography.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> >> -- >> Bob Adler >> www.robertadlerphotography.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information -- Mark William Rabiner Photographer http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/