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Subject: [Leica] Film Developing
From: sonc.hegr at gmail.com (Sonny Carter)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 21:56:48 -0600
References: <D1140224.33B79%mark@rabinergroup.com>


from my iPad

Sonny Carter

> On Feb 25, 2015, at 9:50 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
> 
> They have left over's.  Hopeful refrigerated by the attitude over there on
> film is negative.  Its very begrudging. I love the place otherwise. Unless
> someone is making bootleg rolls in the basement.
> 
> 
>> On 2/25/15 10:36 PM, "Sonny Carter" <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> That may be, but B&H lists it in stock.
>> 
>> from my iPad
>> 
>> Sonny Carter
>> 
>>> On Feb 25, 2015, at 9:31 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_discontinued_photographic_films
>>> List of discontinued photographic films
>>> 
>>> This the first I'd heard of no more plus x. my basic black and white 
>>> medium
>>> format studio film. In 220 or 70mm. Or 120.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 5 Kodak Films
>>> 5.1 Kodak Verichrome Safety Film
>>> 5.2 Kodak Verichrome Pan
>>> 5.3 Kodak Super-XX
>>> 5.4 Kodak Technical Pan
>>> 
>>> 5.5 Kodak Professional BW400CN
>>> 
>>> 5.6 Kodak Professional TRI-X 320
>>> 5.7 Kodachrome
>>> 5.8 Ektachrome E200
>>> 5.9 Plus X 125
>>> 5.10 Panatomic X
>>> 5.11 ELITE Chrome Extra Color 100
>>> 5.12 ELITE Chrome 100
>>> 5.13 E100G
>>> 5.14 E100VS
>>> 5.15 E100GX
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 2/25/15 10:03 PM, "Sonny Carter" <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Kodak BW CN is still available.  You can buy it from B&H, or Amazon.
>>>> 
>>>> from my iPad
>>>> 
>>>> Sonny Carter
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 25, 2015, at 7:32 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kodak stopped making their chromogenic black and white film (what this 
>>>>> is
>>>>> called) a few years ago but Ilford still makes XP2 which I've used this
>>>>> decade to shoot film. It's embarrassingly good.  Its made of  dye 
>>>>> instead
>>>>> of
>>>>> silver but how would you know? You can be all into darkroom chemistry 
>>>>> and
>>>>> developing and be lucky to approach it with regular black and white 
>>>>> films
>>>>> rated at 400. It seems to have the grain and sharpness of 100 films.
>>>>> As far as archivalness goes regular black and white film seems to last
>>>>> forever with a bit of care and luck but color neg always had a bad rep.
>>>>> The reason was when you brought it back into the darkroom again to make
>>>>> another print from a neg you'd printed before you count often not 
>>>>> match the
>>>>> preceding print. The various color layers faded not at the same rate so
>>>>> you'd get color crossover. And there was no way to make a real good 
>>>>> print.
>>>>> This did not take years to take place but months and even weeks and 
>>>>> some
>>>>> color custom printers have told me days but I didn't see it with my own
>>>>> eyes.
>>>>> 
>>>>> XP2 only has one layer so if it fades a few percentage points you can 
>>>>> just
>>>>> add some contrast and probably match a print you'd made with it was 
>>>>> fresh.
>>>>> All my Xp2 I've shot for decades still looks good and I'd expect would
>>>>> print
>>>>> perfectly. Certainly scan perfectly.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2/25/15 8:11 PM, "Ken Carney" <kcarney1 at cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I can second that.  Ilford and Kodak make b&w films for C41 processing
>>>>>> (WalMart, Walgreen etc.), and in my experience they scan better than
>>>>>> conventional negatives.  A downside is that they are shorter-lived, 
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> in theory at least they are forever once scanned.  Or, absent 
>>>>>> scanning,
>>>>>> as a long-time client of mine once said, at my age I don't buy green
>>>>>> bananas.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ken
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 2/25/2015 5:08 PM, Sonny Carter wrote:
>>>>>>> Have you checked Walgreen's?  Most of them still run C41, and you 
>>>>>>> show
>>>>>>> three
>>>>>>> stores in town.  Check the one on Houston hwy, since it is close to 
>>>>>>> UH.
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> don't love their scans (at least at mine) but they do a good job of
>>>>>>> processing, and I do lots of small prints up to 8x10 there.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> from my iPad
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sonny Carter
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Feb 25, 2015, at 11:32 AM, Bill Clough <billclough042541 at 
>>>>>>>> gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> USA
>>>>>>>> TEXAS
>>>>>>>> VICTORIA
>>>>>>>> 25 February 2015
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi there--
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Never occurred to me--until now--to look through the Leica M's
>>>>>>>> viewfinder after cataract surgery. To my surprise, I now can frame 
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> focus again.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I have source for film but even the local drug stores no longer are
>>>>>>>> processing film.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I still have the kinder man tanks but would like to avoid all that.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I'm open to any suggestions about where 35mm film still is processed
>>>>>>>> professionally.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Reply here are offline--
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks--
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> --Bill
>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Mark William Rabiner
>>>>> Photographer
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>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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