Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2015/02/25
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]As I've pointed out before, and demonstrated with images, the A7s seems to have overcome the wide angle issues. I recently photographed the American Cemetery here, and the images were blown up to 5 feet high for a display. The lens was a V/C 15mm M. I also often shoot happily with the 21 pre asph M that you hate. I've used the 28 Minolta M on it, but I don't care for the focal length as much as the 35, so not enough to report. I own more lenses than anyone needs, including the wonderful Zeiss 55mm FE, and the camera seems happy with them all. from my iPad Sonny Carter > On Feb 25, 2015, at 1:40 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: > > I kind of maybe assume wrong that if a camera company real or imagined came > out with a Leica M solution it should be able to be used with impunity on > Leica M glass from ultrawide to darned long. (135mm) > As if that's why its there and people put their 21 or 18mm on it and it > looked like Coney Island at high tide not quite in the center people would > complain and a few might have their credit card companies cancel the > transaction entirely. Like a tree falling alone in the woods. > > The Sony A7 has looked real good to me from the start. I love its compact > lightweight and bare boned industrial design. My D700 weights a ton. > In the past week I've looked into it as a friend of mine in Puerto Rico > just > picked one up with a Canon adaptor but uses most the time I think with a > Sony Sonnar T* FE 55mm f/1.8 ZA Lens which is supposed to give the Zeiss > Zeiss 55mm f/1.4 Otus Distagon T* EF a run for its money. The Otus with no > regrets gets called often the best normal lens in the world and cost 4 > grand > while the FE cost one grand and supposedly has specs to almost match. > But the point here would be to use it with Leica glass and I cant keep > track > but all these cameras which do that people keep saying here they don't work > with wides. For me that's a deal breaker became I'm a wide kinda guy. I > have > wides for breakfast. Right now my piggy bank says "20mm f/1.8G ED AFS" on > it > in blue magic marker. On my camera I've a just bought a 35mm 1.8G ED. > My new lens line is all about Mr. ED. > >> On 2/25/15 1:09 AM, "Sonny Carter" <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Mark sez: "Id love for a real camera company to come out with a simple > and >> concise > full frame M glass solution." > > My full frame Sony A7s sits beside me >> on the table with my pre-asph 35mm > Summilux M on the mount. It also has had >> my 15mm Voigtl?nder, 21mm > Super-Angulon f4, 21mm Elmarit, 40mm Summicron C, >> 50mm Summicron, 75 mm > Summarit, 90mm Tele-Elmarit M lenses, (also fits my my >> 90 Summicron R, 135 > Elmarit R.) > > Admittedly it is menu intensive, until >> customized the way you want, then > the menus are hands off. > > I have another >> simple and concise full frame M glass solution camera; a > Leica M9. > > Both from >> real camera companies . . . > > On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 7:18 PM, Mark Rabiner >> <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: > >> When the T came out I thought I was not the >> only one who had no interest in >> it as it was a cropped camera and the idea >> of shooting thought the centers >> of my Leica M glass does not appeal to me in >> a compact camera I was >> expecting an answer to Sony's RX1 a camera which like >> the film based Rollei >> 35 gave a Leica screw mount or M a run for its money >> which fits in your >> pocket and cost quite a bit less. >> Leica though had >> other ideas on undercutting itself and seems happy with >> the >> idea that you >> need now seven grand to power your cache of Leica M glass. >> This is ok as >> other companies can supply that whim as they've done in the >> past. >> >> The >> Leica T has an interface which compares with an IPhone. >> I'm not looking for >> that as I can just about make a phone call on my iPhone >> unless they go the >> whole route and allow me to make phone calls with it. >> Then I can stare at it >> all day like everyone else does. Read War and Peace >> on the back. >> >> My main >> axe to grind is this camera is not vaporware as in a fig Newton of >> some >> software designers imagination. >> Its crowd funding ware.. A new thing foisted >> upon us in the camera >> industry. >> "I will come out with this cool camera if >> you all pretend I'm Muscular >> Sclerosis and send me a big pile of money" >> Id >> love for a real camera company to come out with a simple and concise >> full >> frame M glass solution. One which won't dissolve when everyone decides >> they >> are not their new favorite charity. >> >> On 2/24/15 4:40 PM, "Geoff Hopkinson" >> <hopsternew at gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Dear Dr Ted it is a concept that they hope >> will appeal to enough people >> to >>> get enough money so that they can try to >> develop and market it. I think >>> that it would be a formidable challenge to >> produce especially with a >>> comparatively miniscule R&D budget, no >> manufacturing base or experience. >>> As far as I know Kyle's figure of USD >> 1300 was just a speculation on what >>> people might pay for such a camera >>> >> The styling and concept looks to be copied straight from an actual Leica >>> >> (the T) >>> Take a look: >>> >> http://us.leica-camera.com/Photography/Leica-T/Leica-T-Camera-System >>> It >> has its own AF lens system and an adapter that allows the use of M >> lenses >> >>> >>> >>> Cheers >>> Geoff >>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman >>> >>> On 25 >> February 2015 at 07:28, Ted Grant <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote: >>> >>>> Larry >> Zeitlin OFFERED:>> This looks very interesting. >>>>>> M lens mount. >>>>>> No >> unnecessary buttons. >>>>>> I really like the all digital rangefinder concept >> - no mirror, no? >>>> calibration worries. >>>> http://konost.com/ >>>> >> =================================================================== >>>> >>>> >> Hi Larry, Thanks for the heads-up on this new "LEICA LIKE CAMERA?????" >>>> >> ===================================================== >>>> Hi CREW, >>>> What >> think you folks? Maybe some bright thinking people at LEICA should >> be >>>> >> looking at a camera with these capabilities at a much lower price than >> >> what >>>> they're charging these days??? >>>> >>>> If one thinks about this a >> tad and considers that this "KONOST CAMERA" >> uses >>>> LEICA LENSES! No >> fiddling around "click and mount your Noctilux or >> whatever >>>> LEICA glass" >> with a capture capability of >>a 20mp Full Frame CMOS image >>>> sensor <<< It >> would seem? "HOW CAN YOU GO WRONG? If the price is much >>>> lower >>>> than >> a new "M LEICA?" of today? >>>> >>>> In any event me not being a >> camera/equipment testing photog? However? In >>>> this case I certainly >> wouldn't mind getting my hands and an eye to one >> of >>>> these "KONOST" FF >> cameras! >>>> >>>> Given the details other than a firm price? This may become >> a "MAJOR >>>> CHALLENGING FOR LEICA??????? Simply because there isn't any >> extra "lens >>>> fiddling to be done!" Other than clicking it onto the body >> and away you >> go! >>>> One just has to love it!!!!!!! :-) Truly KISS simple! >> :-) By the same >>>> token >>>> let's hope that is true! >>>> >>>> It does >> appear this is a truly "KISS CAMERA" for those who just want to >>>> take >>>> >> pictures for fun and living happy without all the so called techie bells >>>> >> and >>>> whistles! Truly a simple? "SEE-CLICK" camera! :-) >>>> >>>> Let's >> hope so at a reasonable price! :-) >>>> cheers, >>>> Dr. ted >>>> >> ====================================================== >>>> >>>> -----Original >> Message----- >>>> From: LUG >> [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On >> Behalf >>>> Of >>>> >> Larry Zeitlin via LUG >>>> Sent: February-24-15 12:08 PM >>>> To: >> lug at leica-users.org >>>> Subject: [Leica] Konost "Leica" >>>> >>>> Don't >> knock the idea of a simplified all electronic Leica. With current >>>> >> technology it is MUCH cheaper to do things digitally than with precision >>>> >> made optics and mechanical parts. An all electronic rangefinder sounds >>>> >> great. No cams, prisms, movable parts. Less expense. There is no >> shortage >> >>>> of >>>> sensor manufacturers. Numerous approaches to doing away with >> microlenses >>>> have been offered. Some on this very list. Remember a camera >> is just a >> box >>>> with a lens on one side and a sensor on the other. Almost >> every thing >> else >>>> is negotiable. Leica doesn't have a lock on all the >> good optical and >>>> electronic engineers in the world. I am told that there >> are a few in >> Japan, >>>> the US, and maybe even in Australia. >>>> Larry Z >> >>>> - - - >>>> This looks very interesting. >>>> M lens mount. >>>> No >> unnecessary buttons. >>>> I really like the all digital rangefinder concept - >> no mirror, no? >>>> calibration worries. >>>> >>>> >>>> http://konost.com/ >> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> http://photorumors.com/2015/02/23/konost-ff-is-a-full-frame-digital-rangefin >> >>>> der-camera-that-seeks-funding/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >> >>>> >>>> --- >>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus >> software. >>>> http://www.avast.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >> >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >> information >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Mark William Rabiner >> Photographer >> >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See >> http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > > > -- >> > Regards, > > Sonny > http://sonc.com/look/ > Natchitoches, Louisiana > 1714 > Oldest >> Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana >> Purchase > > USA > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users >> Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > -- > Mark William Rabiner > Photographer > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information