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Subject: [Leica] The myths of crop factor
From: tedgrant at shaw.ca (Ted Grant)
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 23:03:27 -0800
References: <CAF8hL-Fgc6n-RmqRFyO4gOQXFKR64wSUXgDE41BbH2BBS9HGTQ@mail.gmail.com> <D0D0E663.2F884%mark@rabinergroup.com>

OH my gosh you folks are still beating your brains out over this DIGI bull
shit?

All this points out is? Just how stupid all of you are wasting time over all
this bull-shit of meaningless bullshit! 

 Get over it! If it doesn't have anything to do with a LEICA
CAMERA????????????? WHO THE HELL CARES???? 

Does it really matter to the "captured moment in milli-seconds whether you
captured it or not??????? 

I can't imagine I just wasted time typing my words none of you people are
bright enough in big heated conversation over? Is really nothing more than a
huge bucket of DIGI shit!

Get over it! Because absolutely none? Yes none of you have the economic
power with LEICA- Germany to affect anything they are doing or are going to
make a change!

LOOK! GET OVER IT! Anything we espouse on the LUG regarding changes, sizes,
lenses, digi-stuff we are sounding off to a brick-wall! 

Regardless of how "MUCH YOU MAY THINK YOUR WORDS MAYBE OF IMPORTANCE?" Get
it through your head anything espoused here is quite meaningless!!!!!!!!!!!!
yeah I know that's mean!  "TOUGH!" 

May I offer? Forget all the techie "BULLSHIT"  and just go out and enjoy the
elements of picture taking with your LEICA!"

CHEERS,
dR. TED 













-----Original Message-----
From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On Behalf 
Of
Mark Rabiner
Sent: January-05-15 10:10 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] The myths of crop factor

Someone I think Hasselblad/Fuji is marketing a not super high priced new
CMOS back which works with classic Hassy 500c bodies or an ELM such as I
have. Its enough to make me try to get a job in the post office.


A CMOS back makes your Hassy not just a studio and tripod camera but a
digital version of the Hassy film camera like a 35mm DSLR Is to an SLR. In
other words you can use it on the street or indoors or at dusk hand held.
A medium format camera whose iso tops off at 200 would be a lot more
constricting and limiting than you'd think. There's also a limit on longer
exposures I think. Personally I'm ok with tripod use but it would be nice to
do with my Hassys what I used to do with them and and what I do now with
35mm format DSLR's. Almost.
I used a lot of 220 iso 800 film in my Hassy's. Color neg.


On 1/5/15 11:25 PM, "Richard Man" <richard at richardmanphoto.com> wrote:

> The newest Sony back is now available from Hasselblad for $13K-$15K. Still
> more than the Pentax 645Z which uses the same back of course, but much
> cheaper than what Phase One charges. Great way to get your Hasselblad
> systems to state of art 2015.
> 
> This also means that older backs like the P45 will be dropping to around
> $8000-$10000 mark.
> 
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 8:14 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
wrote:
> 
>> You lucky guy!
>> 
>> I thought my Hassy system as lucky for me as it would be the first in
line
>> for any digital revolution which might come to pass. Did not occur to me
>> that those backs would cost more than any car I ever bought.
>> So that's not happened for me yet. But I still have my complete
Hasselblad
>> system. A nice set of top quality Zeiss for Hasselblad glass. Including a
>> 10omm f3.5. Made specifically for the Hassy system by Zeiss.  Not Cosina
>> Zeiss. Zeiss Zeiss.
>> 
>> 
>> On 1/5/15 11:01 PM, "George Lottermoser" <george.imagist at icloud.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> my Hasselblad is a DSLR
>>> 
>>> a note off the iPad, George
>>> 
>>> On Jan 5, 2015, at 9:52 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> used to balk when people would say a DSLR replaced a Hasselblad.
>>>> Now I half agree with it.
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Mark William Rabiner
>> Photographer
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> 
> 
> 




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Mark William Rabiner
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