Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2014/12/25
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You have been able tondo this from the comfort if where > ever the hell it is you have your monitor set up. The book gets printed > god knows where and then sent to buyers anyone in the world. That is a > major achievement on your part. > > I will tell you as a computer professional that there is also a part of > the internet that I truly dislike, and that is the rough underside of its > culture. It allows anyone with a bitch or a grievance, legitimate or > illegitimate, to express it often in ways which are ill mannered or just > plain rude. Often exchanges on the net are little more than urinating > contests or testosterone based contests to see who can dominate whom not > unlike those favored by mountain goats in the wild. > > There are always people with dissatisfactions and complaints who are more > than willing to express them. The net provides them with a marvelous ready > made megaphone. That in no way detracts from your accomplishment. Please > don't let it. > > Barney > > Barney Quinn, WK3Z > C: (301) 775-1386 > H: (301) 654-0938 > >> On Dec 25, 2014, at 6:28 PM, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> I have done my best to explain and respond on this off list, starting at >> 6am on Christmas day here where I got a request for an urgent response and >> some comment that I found unreasonable. I have asked Roger to take any >> further discussion on this onto the list now. If anyone else wants to >> comment do please do so ON LIST too. >> >> The price difference is USD 13.01 with the different paper choice. To the >> best of my knowledge 'Premium lustre' is what Jim used previously before >> as >> well. >> I get nothing from the book whether there are 200 or five sold. The only >> beneficiary is Project H.O.M.E., Jim's charity. Everyone is free to choose >> whether they want to purchase it as always. I agree that the book is not >> inexpensive and I made a $14.99 eBook option available. Actually if people >> do not want to purchase the printed version in any version, you will be >> making a larger donation to them by purchasing the eBook. >> >> Blurb evidently pay any sales profit monthly. I have set that payment to >> be >> in USD via Paypal which is the cheapest by far way of receiving any >> profits >> on this. I shall transfer any payment made to me to Jim immediately by >> that >> method too. >> >> I did this to fulfill a promise I made to Brian and the list early in the >> year. I think I did a good job for everyone and the reactions so far have >> been almost uniformly positive except for this. >> >> I will not be offering to edit any future version of the book for the list >> should there be one. >> >> >> Cheers >> Geoff >> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman >> >>> On 26 December 2014 at 06:32, Roger Rubin <vroger at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> I am fairly sure I oughtn't answer a comment while p***ed off, but I >>> really >>> have to take issue with Nathan's instructions: >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 3:29 PM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Geoff, thank you for doing the job. I suggest that you let the >>> complainers >>>> go and* f**k themselves in the attic* and leave things as they are. I >>> ordered >>>> the book the other day and cannot wait to see it. You should not have to >>>> spend any more time on complaints from sad anoraks. >>>> >>>> Merry Christmas! >>>> >>>> Nathan >>>> >>>> Nathan Wajsman >>> >>> At the outset I do not have an attic, and am generally not in need of >>> "f**king" myself. (further expletive opinions deleted). I have let Geoff >>> know privately that I consider almost $100 for this book to be excessive >>> and as far as I am concerned an unconscionable increase in amount over >>> the >>> original price at which it was listed of $77.00. I personally would like >>> the option of choosing the paper it is printed on (I understand that this >>> is possible) and quite frankly, I am very surprised at the vehemence of >>> Nathan's stated opinion, *which I take personally*. I have been buying >>> the >>> "best" version of the book since 2007 and have never felt the need >>> to criticize, but the price as it stands is too high for me. Bests to all >>> Roger Rubin (vroger) >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information