Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2014/12/17

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Subject: [Leica] Sony A7
From: richard at richardmanphoto.com (Richard Man)
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 16:59:59 -0800
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Sonny, I mostly agree. However, for wide angle work, how important is Live
View?

On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The M9 is not a good option if you want to do live view, Richard.
>
> You need an M for that and the cheapest copy used and beat up I've seen of
> those is $5K plus the VF.
>
> The Sony A7s is way under half that.
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Richard Man <richard at 
> richardmanphoto.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > This is a well known problem with non-retrofocus wide angle on digital
> > sensor. After all, it was THE reason Leica said why a digital M camera
> was
> > "impossible" (from the technology of that time) back in 2006 or so. So
> not
> > sure why you would expect differently.
> >
> > The M9 is relatively speaking, "dirt-cheap" now. So it's still a good
> > option.
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 4:01 PM, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Frank, do you own any wide angle slr lenses?  My experience with
> Konica,
> > > Nikon and Pentax on adapters was pretty good on the A7r.
> > >
> > > As I've shown, the A7s seems to have overcome many of the wide angle
> > > problems and I'm happily shooting my 15mm CV as well as my Summilux 35
> on
> > > it.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 5:28 PM, Frank Filippone <red735i at 
> > > verizon.net>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I selected this camera because I thought it would work wonderfully on
> > my
> > > > Leica lenses.  I should have read more online about its
> compatibility.
> > > > Works fine with longer lenses, but as I am a WA shooter, the results
> > > with
> > > > my Leica M WA lenses are a bit lacking, especially in edge sharpness.
> > > Yup,
> > > > should have read the stories of woe from other users.
> > > >
> > > > I had good results over the weekend shooting the Nocti with the A7.
> I
> > > > especially liked the OOF areas, which is what the Nocti is all about.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Today I received my Nikon F Lens to Sony (NEX) adapter.. I got a
> spurt
> > of
> > > > good feelings from the combination of older ( non-AF) long Nikon
> lenses
> > > and
> > > > the Sony.
> > > >
> > > > But I also have a D7100 that can take advantage of the long lenses
> WITH
> > > > auto
> > > > diaphragm operation, a more pleasant way to work but more difficult
> to
> > > > critically focus, and of course, there is the opportunity to use AF
> > with
> > > > some of my lenses.  You may remember my story about difficulty
> > critically
> > > > EVF focusing at smaller f-Stops ( F8-16).  Same is true for MF on (
> low
> > > > contrast) DSLR focusing screens.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I did get a kick out of EVF focusing my 400mm F5.6 lens on a fence
> > about
> > > > 100
> > > > yards away wide open.  The fence sits about 2 feet from a block wall.
> > I
> > > > could watch the  focus snap in and out of the chain link itself..
> the
> > > wall
> > > > was easy to watch snap into focus in a different plane....
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I own no native Sony lenses, and do not really wish to buy into
> another
> > > > lens
> > > > system past the Nikon and Leica I now have.
> > > >
> > > > I am not so sure this A7 has a place in my life..without the native
> > > lenses,
> > > > but I do dearly love the EVF...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Frank Filippone
> > > >
> > > > Red735i at verizon.net
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Sonny
> > > http://sonc.com/look/
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> >
> >
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>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Sonny
> http://sonc.com/look/
> Natchitoches, Louisiana
> 1714
> Oldest Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana Purchase
>
> USA
>
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Replies: Reply from sonc.hegr at gmail.com (Sonny Carter) ([Leica] Sony A7)
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Message from sonc.hegr at gmail.com (Sonny Carter) ([Leica] Sony A7)