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Subject: [Leica] Noctilux and Sony A7?
From: rgacpa at gmail.com (Bob Adler)
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 19:19:37 -0800
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Thanks Adam. Have fun in Yose!

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 14, 2014, at 6:41 PM, Adam Bridge <abridge at mac.com> wrote:
> 
> I have this combination: Nocti and A7 and A7R and you?d be welcome to give 
> the combo a shot. Of course I?m virtually next door to Steve.
> 
> I think Sony is homing in on how to handle the focusing interface. I?m 
> interested in trying, hands on, the Fuji X1-T system which looks 
> attractive to me. I do most of my focusing on the A7 & A7R in manual mode, 
> even with Zeiss or Sony lenses that support auto-focus. Zooming in is 
> great and you?re seeing what the sensor sees.
> 
> It?s curious but when I?m shooting by hand I use the A7. When I?m on a 
> tripod I use the A7R to exploit the increased sensor size. The shutter on 
> the R is clunky. Mostly I don?t miss the extra pixels. Maybe 24 Mpixels is 
> a sweet spot? Although talk of a 45-50 MP model is intriguing. I find 
> myself exploiting ISOs in the 4000-5000 range a lot, more than I ever 
> imagined. There?s noise, sure, but wow, modern software in either 
> Lightroom or Photoshop deals with it easily and when I compare it to scans 
> of, say, Provia, the images are pretty darn nice.
> 
> Headed to Yosemite for a few days this week. Hoping for snow.
> 
> Adam
> 
>> On Dec 13, 2014, at 4:57 AM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 12, 2014, at 8:54 PM, Bob Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> With the M it can be done at anytime with Live view. But does it matter? 
>>> So you know it's out: now what? With the sony (or any EVF) WYSIWYG. 
>>> 
>>> I guess with the Sony, if there is little shutter lag, the EVF focusing 
>>> would be great. Is there? Is the newest Sony quieter with less lag? The 
>>> M's lag with EVF just kills getting the moment. Using the M's range 
>>> finder is only limited by your predictive/reactive capabilities. 
>>> Personally I think at close distance at f1 it's a crap shoot whatever 
>>> you use. Chances are better the further away you get. Physics rules. 
>>> 
>>> I'd like to try a Sony someday. See how the Nocti works... Let's get 
>>> together!!
>>> :-)
>> 
>> 
>> for sure Bob asap
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> s
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 12, 2014, at 4:52 PM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 12, 2014, at 4:48 PM, Lluis Ripoll <lluisripollphotography at 
>>>>> gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you Steve, This will be a very interesting test. I have to tell 
>>>>> you that I?ve get a big improvement on my Lux 75 after I?ve sent it to 
>>>>> Wetzlar to be calibrated, at the same time I?ve ordered add the 6 bit 
>>>>> coding, but I think this has not any influence in focusing precision.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> calibration helps, but there is no way a week later or a year later, to 
>>>> know if it remains in the same good calibration....aye there's the 
>>>> rub...
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Amiti?s
>>>>> Lluis
>>>>> 
>>>>>> El 13/12/2014, a las 01:40, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at 
>>>>>> gmail.com> escribi?:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Dec 12, 2014, at 4:25 PM, Lluis Ripoll <lluisripollphotography at 
>>>>>>> gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Your Hospital images are unforgettable!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> you are very kind Lluis, here I am thinking of the technical issues 
>>>>>> only, I may when time allows simply do a series of dandelion shots: w 
>>>>>> Nocti at f1   and Summilux 75mm at f1.4,  on the Sony 7,  to have a 
>>>>>> look...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> steve
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Amiti?s
>>>>>>> Lluis
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> El 13/12/2014, a las 01:16, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at 
>>>>>>>> gmail.com> escribi?:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Dec 12, 2014, at 4:07 PM, Lluis Ripoll <lluisripollphotography 
>>>>>>>>> at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sonny,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I?ve never owned a Noctilux, just play with some ones borrowed by 
>>>>>>>>> friends but what do you say is in my opinion one of the 
>>>>>>>>> characteristics things of this lens, it is difficult obtain a 
>>>>>>>>> perfect picture but when yo got it it is exceptional?!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> exactly Lluis, a major reason why it's difficult, is the need to 
>>>>>>>> obtain perfect  focus at f1. When you focus imo with a Sony EVF 
>>>>>>>> with focus peaking, it's far easier to nail the focus....
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> my experience with focussing a Noctilux at f1 derived from my 
>>>>>>>> earlier kids in hospital images....
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> steve
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>> Lluis
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> El 12/12/2014, a las 22:57, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>>>> escribi?:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> The point is to walk away with the image that you had in mind.  
>>>>>>>>>> The image
>>>>>>>>>> that I wanted to show you.  Look! See what I see?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I was unsuccessful with a Noctilux and made maybe three really 
>>>>>>>>>> wonderful
>>>>>>>>>> shots in the year I owned it, and a couple dozen I liked.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> (Ironically, two of the shots were made into posters and sold 
>>>>>>>>>> several
>>>>>>>>>> hundred copies for the Natchitoches Historic Foundation.)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> If I
>>>>>>>>>> ?still ?
>>>>>>>>>> had it with a Sony or an M, I would be out there with it glued to 
>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>> camera, because I'm crazy for available dark pictures
>>>>>>>>>> ?, and I know I'd be lovin' it and you guys would be lookin' at 
>>>>>>>>>> that EXIF
>>>>>>>>>> line and wishing you were me.  ;-)?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Sonny
>>>>>>>>>> http://sonc.com/look/
>>>>>>>>>> Natchitoches, Louisiana
>>>>>>>>>> 1714
>>>>>>>>>> Oldest Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana Purchase
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> USA
>>>>>>>>>> 
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