Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2014/11/02

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Subject: [Leica] My next Leica camera is a Sony A7
From: sonc.hegr at gmail.com (Sonny Carter)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 12:57:26 -0600
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Bob, there's lots of A7s material out there for so new a camera.   look at
Youtube, and also there's a facebook group with lots of stuff.  If you have
specific questions, I can answer them about A7 r and A7s, except I do not
use them for video.

The other thing is the A7s has great low light ability.   I recently did
some displays that printed six feet tall from my 15mm C/V lens and they
looked spectacular.   http://sonc.com/look/?p=3822

On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Bob Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm getting a bit confused in this thread, all. On the Sony site from
> least to most expensive are the A7, A7S, & A7S.
> The A7R has more MP, but a noisy shutter, yes? More MPs only advantage is
> larger prints, better cropping?
> A7S is the least MP, but most expensive. Newer processor, newer chip
> construction. So video is emphasis, but newer sensor build improves wide
> angle performance? Silent shutter mode not on other 2?
> Is there somewhere best to compare? I'd prefer the input of this list's
> Leica users...
> Thanks for unravelling for me...
> Bob
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Nov 2, 2014, at 8:20 AM, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > If you want to see many other examples, most of my pictures posted since
> > the last new year have been with either the A7r or, (after it was stolen)
> > the A7s, exif provided go to http://sonc.com/look/
> >
> >> On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 8:49 AM, Adam Bridge <abridge at mac.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Weighing in as someone who actually uses a Sony A7 & A7R on a regular
> >> basis, with Leica glass, I have to endorse the ability of the camera to
> >> focus well, especially in very low light conditions.
> >>
> >> Friday night we had a wedding rehearsal dinner in a very dark room. I
> took
> >> the A7 (my M8 would have been totally useless) with a CV f1.2 35mm lens
> >> (the Noctilux wasn?t a good choice because of close focus limitations
> and I
> >> could only take one lens). I was shooting anywhere from ISO 16,000 to
> >> 24,000 wide open or just a bit stopped down so I could pretend I had
> some
> >> depth of field.
> >>
> >> The result was like shooting Neopan 1600, at least to my eye.
> >>
> >> Here?s an example, processed from color to B&W (which I had intended to
> do
> >> from the start) in Lightroom 5.6 which includes native support for the
> Sony
> >> cameras as have the last few versions. Frank might want to update unless
> >> there?s a reason to hang around with the previous generation?s software.
> >>
> >> <
> >>
> http://adam-bridge.smugmug.com/Family/2014-Pauls-Wedding-Trip/i-Wj6r27v/0/X3/2014-10-31-rehersal_dinner-29-X3.jpg
> >> <
> >>
> http://adam-bridge.smugmug.com/Family/2014-Pauls-Wedding-Trip/i-Wj6r27v/0/X3/2014-10-31-rehersal_dinner-29-X3.jpg
> >>
> >> There are more snaps from that dinner and from work the previous day as
> we
> >> toured.
> >>
> >> Oh, here?s one of Ric Carter I shot at our lunch:
> >>
> >> <
> >>
> http://adam-bridge.smugmug.com/Family/2014-Pauls-Wedding-Trip/i-hdn2Msh/0/X3/2014-10-31-north_carolina_trip_friday-05-X3.jpg
> >> <
> >>
> http://adam-bridge.smugmug.com/Family/2014-Pauls-Wedding-Trip/i-hdn2Msh/0/X3/2014-10-31-north_carolina_trip_friday-05-X3.jpg
> >>
> >> Ric is a great guy (but you knew that already, eh?) a great
> >> conversationalist and recommended a super lunch spot (the Raleigh Times
> >> Bar) where we enjoyed some seriously good lunch.
> >>
> >> I can understand why being pro any other camera but a Leica on the list
> >> might ruffle feathers. But the new M is terribly expensive, seems a bit
> >> fragile from reports I?ve been reading, and doesn?t do some things as
> well
> >> as the Sony.
> >>
> >> I?m thinking Sony may be wishing they had designed the E mount a bit
> >> differently at this point because it does place challenges on the
> designers
> >> of future lenses. Leica had to work out its own issues with its sensor
> to
> >> make it work well with its own wide angle lenses and even then there?s a
> >> lot of software involved behind the scenes (ignore that man behind the
> >> curtain?) to get it to come together.
> >>
> >> For me, I?m with Frank. Sony A7(RS) are my new Leicas. I?ll be buying
> more
> >> Zeiss glass to complement them.
> >>
> >> I will say that I have no issue with focusing using the ?zoom? system.
> >> Native lenses like the new manual Zeiss lenses, will dip into zoom mode
> as
> >> you focus which works rather nicely.
> >>
> >> Adam Bridge
> >>
> >>> On Nov 2, 2014, at 8:24 AM, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Well there ya go. The Sony a7s is not cropped but full frame. It is
> less
> >> expensive. Maybe gaffers tape?  It is a premium product, being used to
> >> shoot films with 4k.  Sony imaging is what you are watching when you are
> >> watching baseball football and soccer (football).  And when you get into
> >> that driverless car, Sony will steer it.
> >>>
> >>> This is the camera you were wishing for on the LUG aloud, Mark,
> >> remember? By brand name!
> >>
> >>
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> >
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> >
> > Sonny
> > http://sonc.com/look/
> > Natchitoches, Louisiana
> > 1714
> > Oldest Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana Purchase
> >
> > USA
> >
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-- 
Regards,

Sonny
http://sonc.com/look/
Natchitoches, Louisiana
1714
Oldest Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana Purchase

USA


Replies: Reply from rgacpa at gmail.com (Robert Adler) ([Leica] My next Leica camera is a Sony A7)
In reply to: Message from mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner) ([Leica] My next Leica camera is a Sony A7)
Message from sonc.hegr at gmail.com (Sonny Carter) ([Leica] My next Leica camera is a Sony A7)
Message from abridge at mac.com (Adam Bridge) ([Leica] My next Leica camera is a Sony A7)
Message from sonc.hegr at gmail.com (Sonny Carter) ([Leica] My next Leica camera is a Sony A7)
Message from rgacpa at gmail.com (Bob Adler) ([Leica] My next Leica camera is a Sony A7)