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Subject: [Leica] My next Leica camera is a Sony A7
From: jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 08:03:30 +0530
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I did not have a choice - that was the only combo that Sony India had
on hand to loan me! After the trial run with the A7R, I decided to
stick with the Fuji X - the A7 and A7S really do not give me enough of
an advantage over the Fuji to merit changing systems. Unlike most of
you, I really am not interested in Leica R lenses on the bodies, but
just to use them with their native lenses.
Cheers
Jayanand

On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 7:51 AM, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> wrote:
> Depends on how you shoot too. With that camera, I found the 35 zeiss and 
> my 35 summilux more appropriate lenses for fast work than the 50.  Don't 
> get me wrong, the 50 is a great lens.  Sony just issued new firmware that 
> reportedly speeds both lenses' performance. Haven't tried it yet.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Nov 1, 2014, at 9:08 PM, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Depends on what you use it for - I found the Sony A7R + 55mm f1.8
>> Zeiss (which I had with me on demo for a week) so slow in operation
>> that it was fairly useless for even street photography. Great lens,
>> and great images when you nail it though.
>> Cheers
>> Jayanand
>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 4:24 AM, Paul Roark <roark.paul at gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> Why the a7 instead of the a7R?
>>>
>>> Did you get their Zony 35mm f/2.8?
>>>
>>> Paul
>>> www.PaulRoark.com
>>>
>>>> On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Frank Filippone <red735i at 
>>>> verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Looking for the ideal camera:  Lots of pixels, EVF, accepts Leica glass 
>>>> if
>>>> possible, AF when I need it, MF and attendant focusing aids otherwise, 
>>>> not
>>>> $8K, takes SDHC cards, great and dependable metering system, Full Frame,
>>>> not
>>>> a cropped sensor, etc.  Built in flash is a bonus.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What got me hooked was the EVF, and especially the enlarged EVF.... It 
>>>> is
>>>> addictive to be able to focus with a magnified view.   I noticed this on
>>>> the
>>>> Fuji XE-1 I have, but the time delay from pushing the button and 
>>>> something
>>>> happening was too long .  Maybe a XT-1 or XE-2 would have fixed that, 
>>>> but
>>>> then I would have had a cropped sensor, and I am a WA type of person.. 
>>>> Not
>>>> a
>>>> great combo.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have an M9.  It is a great camera, but focusing is not optimum.  
>>>> Lenses
>>>> over 90mm are really hard to compose as the VF is pretty much a Hail 
>>>> Mary
>>>> at
>>>> that stage.  Some would say, go buy an M(240).  It offers a similar set 
>>>> of
>>>> specs as I want.  Easy to say, hard to part with the money for the 
>>>> M(240).
>>>> And the next iteration of Leica is bound to be yet another $1K.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I just received my new Sony A7.  Had a cheapo Leica M to Sony mount 
>>>> adapter
>>>> hanging about, just in case I eventually bought the A7.  Slapped on a 50
>>>> ASPH Lux.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The benefit of more pixels is primarily the ability to NOT carry a long
>>>> lens.  You crop the image.  Saves weight.  Saves money ( no lens to
>>>> purchase
>>>> ).  I was not terribly into the pixel count issues, it is a nice side
>>>> benefit as I very rarely carry a long (over 75 or 90mm) lens.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> When the opportunity presented itself, I decided to try out the A7 over 
>>>> the
>>>> XT-1.  ( used, thanks to Doug, and his friend)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The image quality, with the A7 + Cheapo ( $12) Adapter + that LENS!!! 
>>>> And I
>>>> am just blown away with the resolution.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> At roughly 200 yards, at F2 ( and probably 1/8000 of a second) I was 
>>>> able
>>>> to
>>>> distinguish a hawk sitting on the electrical poles near the house. For
>>>> reference, the hawk was most likely 12-15 inches tall.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> At about 6 yards, same exposures setup, I was able to distinguish the 
>>>> marks
>>>> on the head of an old, crusty, 6 penny nail in my fence. Focus accuracy 
>>>> is
>>>> astonishing.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Metering is superb.something Leica's pseudo spot meter lacks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There is basically no delay from pushing the button to getting the 
>>>> shutter
>>>> to open.  Even in magnified focusing mode.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This kind of change does have its downsides.. My LR V4.4 will not read 
>>>> the
>>>> Sony files, but Adobe DNG Converter fixes that;  There is no in camera
>>>> correction for vignetting nor "distortion" ( as if Leica's pride and joy
>>>> mainstream lens needs too much); there is no EXIF file data to remember
>>>> which lens you had on at any time ( which would not be at all important
>>>> except for operations of vignetting and distortion correction.)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The camera does not have the same solid feel as a Leica ( any Leica 
>>>> short
>>>> of
>>>> the CL and maybe the P+S models).  It will probably die faster than a M3
>>>> would.. Then again..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I need to become more familiar with the operational buttons, and menus,
>>>> however, I was able to get the camera working a bit more like I want it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I wish more than ever that I had a fleet of Leica R glass, but not a 
>>>> single
>>>> one was ever in my kit.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It is not going with me tonight to shoot some fun fotos of a adult 
>>>> birthday
>>>> party.  No twinkle flash.  Then again, nothing really is ideal.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Frank Filippone
>>>>
>>>> Red735i at verizon.net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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