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Subject: [Leica] I didn't know this...
From: rgacpa at gmail.com (Robert Adler)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 18:51:56 -0700
References: <CAAsXt4Ngua7hn=WxL4JvXRdB4k+4hGsOGzNf5_OZcbqRXgUaGg@mail.gmail.com> <AA783A37-93E7-4634-BBE2-004893869636@acm.org> <3f16288ea7b0b5136822b7c70d6647bf.squirrel@webmail.frozenlight.eu> <CAAsXt4MmY9dAHLujaWNRzXy6tfJX9Rmr7edCjZDBWB9zmPU8Og@mail.gmail.com> <5E7C0A8F-7217-4269-B785-BA036B7E1986@sfr.fr>

Leica gestalt...

On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 8:35 AM, philippe.amard <philippe.amard at sfr.fr>
wrote:

>
> Le 15 sept. 14 ? 17:21, Robert Adler a ?crit :
>
>  I'm learning...
>> :-)
>>
>
> German?
>
> ;-)
>
> Ph
>
>
>
>> On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 1:16 AM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Ze German engineerz know vat is best for you, yes. You should not expose
>>> so much, no.
>>>
>>> Op Ma, 15 september, 2014 09:10, schreef Herbert Kanner:
>>>
>>>> I wonder if the M9 does the same thing. I?ll have to check it.
>>>>
>>>> Herbert Kanner
>>>> kanner at acm.org
>>>> 650-326-8204
>>>>
>>>> Question authority and the authorities will question you.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 14, 2014, at 7:23 PM, Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Just back from Yosemite (hopefully an image or two later...). Went with
>>>>> my
>>>>> wife (Jane) and her high school friend who now lives in Australia. Her
>>>>> friend went to Yosemite with her family every summer growing up (she
>>>>> remembers the real fire falls off Glacier Point from the Glacier Point
>>>>> Lodge (which burned down in 1969)... So it really wasn't a photo trip,
>>>>> and
>>>>> the light was awful with the smoke from the Little Yosemite Valley
>>>>> fires
>>>>> and temperatures during the day of 90deg...
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, to the point. We saw the smoke from the fire in Little Yosemite
>>>>> Valley and went to Washburn Point so I could take some pictures at
>>>>> sundown
>>>>> + to get the glow that appears after the sun goes down.
>>>>>
>>>>> So my surprise was the 60sec exposure limit with the M. I became
>>>>> completely
>>>>> baffled when I pumped the ISO up, put the setting on B and the exposure
>>>>> cut
>>>>> off at less than 60 seconds despite holding down the shutter release on
>>>>> the
>>>>> cable.
>>>>>
>>>>> Going back to the room later and reading the manual, I found that the
>>>>> 60
>>>>> seconds is for base ISO of 200. Pump the ISO to 400, and the time limit
>>>>> for
>>>>> exposure goes to 30 seconds. Pump it again to 800 and the exposure time
>>>>> limit drops again to 16 seconds; ISO 1600=8seconds and so forth.
>>>>>
>>>>> So really it doesn't matter which ISO you use, you will not increase
>>>>> the
>>>>> actual exposure at all.
>>>>> Though I understand what's going on, I feel a bit cheated/mislead...
>>>>>
>>>>> Just an FYI for M users who may not have discovered this.
>>>>> Bob
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Bob Adler
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>> photo at frozenlight.eu
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Bob Adler
>>
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>
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-- 
Bob Adler


In reply to: Message from rgacpa at gmail.com (Robert Adler) ([Leica] I didn't know this...)
Message from kanner at acm.org (Herbert Kanner) ([Leica] I didn't know this...)
Message from photo at frozenlight.eu (Nathan Wajsman) ([Leica] I didn't know this...)
Message from rgacpa at gmail.com (Robert Adler) ([Leica] I didn't know this...)
Message from philippe.amard at sfr.fr (philippe.amard) ([Leica] I didn't know this...)