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Subject: [Leica] EVF cameras and especially non native lenses.....
From: rgacpa at gmail.com (Robert Adler)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 18:11:09 -0800
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Yes; your correct. That's why I never play poker!! ;-)

On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 5:07 PM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com>
wrote:

>
> > On Nov 21, 2014, at 4:47 PM, Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Or as game theory suggests, there are three things to consider:
> > You know what you know
> > You know what you don't know
>
>
>
>
> > And you don't know what you don't know
>
>
> sounds like it,    I think ....?
>
> which is why  serendipity always leads to the most important
> discoveries....
>
>
> steve
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at 
> > gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>> On Nov 21, 2014, at 4:20 PM, Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Steve: Are you telling me, as a Doctor, that I should take  2 aspirin
> and
> >>> stop worrying?
> >>
> >>
> >> one may be a bit too much....
> >>
> >> the paradox re focussing with an EVF, is that the lenses that are always
> >> in focus, are the hardest to focus, and the lenses that are the hardest
> to
> >> focus, are easy to focus...
> >>
> >> yes, yes it's true...
> >>
> >> (maybe we need to share those asprins...)
> >>
> >> steve
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Steve
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Frank Filippone
> >>> Red735i at verizon.net
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+red735i=verizon.net at leica-users.org] 
> >>> On
> >> Behalf
> >>> Of Steve Barbour
> >>> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 3:25 PM
> >>> To: Leica LUG
> >>> Subject: Re: [Leica] EVF cameras and especially non native lenses.....
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Nov 21, 2014, at 11:45 AM, Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I have been on the hunt for my "ideal" camera.
> >>>> The Nikon D7100 is pretty good, lenses that are light in weight are
> >>>> pretty marginal in performance.  ( relative to Leica lenses)  and it
> >>>> does not offer a EVF.
> >>>> The Fuji XE-1 is pretty great, but the smaller sensor is not quite as
> >>>> useful as a FF sensor would be, for WA lenses.  I routinely shoot with
> >>>> the WATE and a 21.
> >>>> I was lucky enough to get a used A7 from a friend of a Lugger
> recently.
> >>>> Bolted on a Leica 24 mm lens and went a shootin....
> >>>> What I have noted is that as a WA shooter, it is really pretty hard to
> >>>> focus precisely
> >>>
> >>> only because it's almost always in focus....
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> s
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> , due to the great DOF WA lenses offer....  Even magnifying the EVF,
> >>>> the real plane of focus hardly is obvious....  Of course, the DOF
> >>>> helps to get well focused images even if the precise focus plane is
> >>>> not right on the money.
> >>>>
> >>>> My M ( put in a number here) never did this.. it was always as easy or
> >>>> as hard to focus, no matter what lens.  And ewhen in calibration, it
> >>>> absolutely put the focus plane where it should have been, according to
> >> the
> >>> VF.
> >>>>
> >>>> A Native Sony lens on this camera would be no easier to manually
> >>>> focus, an AF Lens would be trivial.....
> >>>> I am learning a lesson....  My "ideal" camera has yet to be
> >>>> invented......or at least, it would need new AF lenses to go with....
> >>>>
> >>>> I am somewhat inspired to say that the M (Type 240) is as close, on
> >>>> specs, to "ideal" as can be gotten.....
> >>>> EVF when you need it, Optical RF when you need it... best of both
> >>>> worlds.....
> >>>>
> >>>> Then again, I have said that before, different camera, same
> words......
> >>>>
> >>>> Frank Filippone
> >>>> Red735i at verizon.net
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> Leica Users Group.
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> >>>
> >>>
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> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Bob Adler
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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>
>
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>



-- 
Bob Adler


Replies: Reply from steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour) ([Leica] EVF cameras and especially non native lenses.....)
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Message from steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour) ([Leica] EVF cameras and especially non native lenses.....)
Message from rgacpa at gmail.com (Robert Adler) ([Leica] EVF cameras and especially non native lenses.....)
Message from steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour) ([Leica] EVF cameras and especially non native lenses.....)