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Subject: [Leica] My next Leica camera is a Sony A7
From: john at mcmaster.co.nz (John McMaster)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 05:35:40 +0000
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I believe the WATE is about the only 50mm or less M lens that works well on 
A7(R), the A7S seems better....

john

-----Original Message-----
From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.co.nz at leica-users.org] On 
Behalf Of Frank Filippone
Sent: Sunday, 2 November 2014 6:14 p.m.
To: 'Leica Users Group'
Subject: Re: [Leica] My next Leica camera is a Sony A7

No Native Sony lenses..... All M so far.....

Frank Filippone
Red735i at verizon.net


-----Original Message-----
From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+red735i=verizon.net at leica-users.org] On 
Behalf Of Paul Roark
Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2014 3:55 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] My next Leica camera is a Sony A7

Why the a7 instead of the a7R?

Did you get their Zony 35mm f/2.8?

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net> 
wrote:

> Looking for the ideal camera:  Lots of pixels, EVF, accepts Leica 
> glass if possible, AF when I need it, MF and attendant focusing aids 
> otherwise, not $8K, takes SDHC cards, great and dependable metering 
> system, Full Frame, not a cropped sensor, etc.  Built in flash is a 
> bonus.
>
>
>
> What got me hooked was the EVF, and especially the enlarged EVF.... It is
> addictive to be able to focus with a magnified view.   I noticed this on
> the
> Fuji XE-1 I have, but the time delay from pushing the button and 
> something happening was too long .  Maybe a XT-1 or XE-2 would have 
> fixed that, but then I would have had a cropped sensor, and I am a WA 
> type of person.. Not a great combo.
>
>
>
> I have an M9.  It is a great camera, but focusing is not optimum.  
> Lenses over 90mm are really hard to compose as the VF is pretty much a 
> Hail Mary at that stage.  Some would say, go buy an M(240).  It offers 
> a similar set of specs as I want.  Easy to say, hard to part with the 
> money for the M(240).
> And the next iteration of Leica is bound to be yet another $1K.
>
>
>
> I just received my new Sony A7.  Had a cheapo Leica M to Sony mount 
> adapter hanging about, just in case I eventually bought the A7.
> Slapped on a 50 ASPH Lux.
>
>
>
> The benefit of more pixels is primarily the ability to NOT carry a 
> long lens.  You crop the image.  Saves weight.  Saves money ( no lens 
> to purchase ).  I was not terribly into the pixel count issues, it is 
> a nice side benefit as I very rarely carry a long (over 75 or 90mm) 
> lens.
>
>
>
> When the opportunity presented itself, I decided to try out the A7 
> over the XT-1.  ( used, thanks to Doug, and his friend)
>
>
>
> The image quality, with the A7 + Cheapo ( $12) Adapter + that LENS!!! 
> And I am just blown away with the resolution.
>
>
>
> At roughly 200 yards, at F2 ( and probably 1/8000 of a second) I was 
> able to distinguish a hawk sitting on the electrical poles near the 
> house. For reference, the hawk was most likely 12-15 inches tall.
>
>
>
> At about 6 yards, same exposures setup, I was able to distinguish the 
> marks on the head of an old, crusty, 6 penny nail in my fence. Focus 
> accuracy is astonishing.
>
>
>
> Metering is superb.something Leica's pseudo spot meter lacks.
>
>
>
> There is basically no delay from pushing the button to getting the 
> shutter to open.  Even in magnified focusing mode.
>
>
>
> This kind of change does have its downsides.. My LR V4.4 will not read 
> the Sony files, but Adobe DNG Converter fixes that;  There is no in 
> camera correction for vignetting nor "distortion" ( as if Leica's 
> pride and joy mainstream lens needs too much); there is no EXIF file 
> data to remember which lens you had on at any time ( which would not 
> be at all important except for operations of vignetting and distortion 
> correction.)
>
>
>
> The camera does not have the same solid feel as a Leica ( any Leica 
> short of the CL and maybe the P+S models).  It will probably die 
> faster than a M3 would.. Then again..
>
>
>
> I need to become more familiar with the operational buttons, and 
> menus, however, I was able to get the camera working a bit more like I
want it.
>
>
>
> I wish more than ever that I had a fleet of Leica R glass, but not a 
> single one was ever in my kit.
>
>
>
> It is not going with me tonight to shoot some fun fotos of a adult 
> birthday party.  No twinkle flash.  Then again, nothing really is ideal.
>
>
>
> Frank Filippone
>
> Red735i at verizon.net
>
>


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