Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2014/09/21
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I still shoot film so... XD On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 11:49 PM, Jim Nichols <jhnichols at lighttube.net> wrote: > Richard and Dr. Ted, > > I was about to offer the same comment as Richard, since most shooters want > the latest and greatest. But, I would add, that I have an Olympus E-1, > with a sensor quite similar to that of the Digilux 2, from the same time > period, and I frequently turn to it for snapshot work, because it produces > beautiful images. > > I suspect that during our working years, we would only dream of something > with this kind of capability. > > Times change................... > > Jim Nichols > Tullahoma, TN USA > > > On 9/20/2014 11:40 PM, Richard Man wrote: > >> Uncle Ted, the Digilux 2 is now 10 years old! So most digital shooters >> have >> moved on the newer machines at least 4 generations newer :-) >> >> On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 8:52 PM, Ted Grant <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote: >> >> HI CREW! >>> >>> I'm so excited by the zero response about the wonders of the LEICA >>> DIGILUX >>> 2!!! :-) :-) >>> >>> And here we've had great babble sessions about the new hot-dog B&W model >>> Leica's. I did expect at least one comment on the DIGILUX 2 and the most >>> interesting qualities using it as a B&W camera digital long before all >>> these >>> new hot-dog B&W LEICA's came on the market. I suppose the reason for no >>> responses are?????? Only a few of us have them and or use them. >>> >>> And when we have something that works extremely well while allowing us to >>> see our B&W images in the view-finder >>> as a B&W scene before you click! Are there no Leica-fans out there with >>> some >>> kind of comment, ACTUALLY GOOD BAD OR LOUSY? >>> >>> The most interesting parts about the DIGILUX 2 is....... The view-finder >>> showing your image in complete B&W configuration! You immediately see it >>> in >>> B&W and does it "LOOK COOL? Or not?" To CLICK OR NOT? IF YOUR A B&W >>> PERSON >>> I >>> truly feel you'll enjoy shooting B&W simply because you see the image in >>> B&W >>> and it captures a pretty good quality photo without any fiddling >>> switching >>> from colour to B&W. >>> >>> As I said earlier, it makes pretty good 13X19 print size, auto-focus and >>> auto-aperture. As well MACRO-AUTO FOCUSING THROUGH OUT the full range of >>> focus. >>> >>> Jeeeesh I'm beginning to sound like a LEICA sales-man! :-) :-) I do like >>> the >>> camera very much as it's quick to use on so many assignment subjects >>> rendering a very fine image quality.. >>> >>> So OK CREW come on, surely somebody has a word or two on this most >>> interesting camera????? GOOD, BAD OR WHY NOT? >>> >>> cheers, >>> Dr, ted :-) >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On >>> Behalf >>> Of >>> Ted Grant >>> Sent: September-19-14 11:13 PM >>> To: 'Leica Users Group' >>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Alternative to the Monochrom >>> >>> HI CREW, >>> I'm going to ask a real dumb ass question about the LEICA DIGILUX 2! I >>> bet >>> not many of you have one nor used one before your eye? >>> >>> This camera can shoot black & white and through the view finder the scene >>> or >>> situation you are viewing is B&W! WOW WHAT A NEAT SCENE! CLICK! >>> >>> Yes it is! And is most fascinating when you move your eye away from the >>> viewfinder While doing this you can become sort of mesmerized seeing >>> everything as a black and white world. And that's before you've even >>> tripped >>> the shutter capturing your not bad at all BLACK & WHITE photo moment. >>> Quite >>> amazing really! YEP! Makes not bad 17" X 19" prints! >>> >>> Move the camera away from your eye and quick as a penny dropping you are >>> flashed back into your natural "COLOUR WORLD!" >>> >>> And you know what?????????? The B&W looks quite cool in print! The >>> interesting thing I found so fascinating was seeing B&W images in the >>> viewfinder before you went "CLICK!" Look-up and my goodness right before >>> your eye it's snapped back to colour! >>> >>> So now dumb-ass question? Do all these super hot shot new B&W LEICA'S do >>> that for their multi thousands of dollars? Show you the world before you >>> in >>> B&W?? Or do they just show you nothing more than the same old crap.... >>> "The >>> world in colour...... but captures the image in B&W???????? BIG DEAL AND >>> FOR HOW MANY THOUSANDS??????" >>> >>> Or through the view finder you view our natural colour world... but on >>> the >>> back screen you have a black & white image??????? >>> >>> If it doesn't let you see in B&W through the view finder? Heck why waste >>> your money buying one of those when just a few hundred dollars you can >>> have >>> a magical machine that allows you to see your photo as a pure >>> B&W............. BEFORE YOU GO CLICK! >>> >>> SO BIG DEAL ON ANY MONO LEICA! Heck it doesn't allow you to see how your >>> potentially beautiful B&W shot looks before you go CLICK!! I think there >>> might be a few interesting responses on this??????? >>> >>> cheers, >>> Dr. ted :-) :-) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On >>> Behalf >>> Of >>> Mark Rabiner >>> Sent: September-19-14 6:31 PM >>> To: Leica Users Group >>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Alternative to the Monochrom >>> >>> It just doest come any dumber than this. >>> >>> I think the purpose of the article is not to make an intelligent point >>> but >>> simply to drum up some attention >>> >>> We need to get smarter and ignore such stuff. But here I am typing away! >>> >>> The idea is that because you can shoot black and white jpegs with >>> consumer >>> quality cropped color fuji camera which can be in black and white mode >>> and >>> since the fuji camera has a rangefinder in it than it is a replacement or >>> alternative for a Leica Monochrome. A camera which makes monochrome raw >>> files from a monochrome sensor. >>> In other words a consumer grade cropped color sensor replaces a full >>> frame >>> Monochrom sensor professional grade sensor. >>> >>> One could say that nothing makes any difference no matter what you do. >>> Its >>> all a big giggle. >>> >>> I see the title of the article is " The Fuji Monochrom" >>> The problem being that its a color camera. >>> >>> One can always sell ones Leica M for a very nice Pentax Spotmatic and use >>> the extra many to take a short vacation but have we "replaced" our M? >>> It implication is that we are using the word to say the cameras are >>> mainly >>> interchangeable. Whatever a Leica M can so so could a Spotmatic pretty >>> much >>> just as well. >>> And I think Leica users and most of the rest of the world knows that >>> that's >>> not likely the case. >>> >>> Its like how the word "backup" gets used. >>> >>> >>> . >>> >>> >>> >>> On 9/19/14 10:30 AM, "Tina Manley" <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> I see a huge difference in the files from my Monochrom and the color >>>> files >>>> >>> from the M240 converted to B&W. >>> >>> Tina >>> >>> On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 10:25 AM, >>> >>>> George Lottermoser < >>>> >>> george.imagist at icloud.com> wrote: >>> >>> The Fuji cameras >>>> obviously deliver beautiful digital files; at an >>>> extremely affordable price >>>> when compared to the Leicas which they emulate. >>>> And essentially this article >>>> says, "here's a nice camera, that looks almost >>>> just like a leica, which can >>>> turn it's RGB files into Grayscale files (just >>>> like every other digital >>>> camera available). >>>> >>>> Of course the same points could be made for my M8, and >>>> M; or the M9, M-E; >>>> or if you let go of the range finder < any mirror-less >>>> camera on the market. >>>> >>>> a note off the iPad, George >>>> >>>> On Sep 19, 2014, at >>>> 6:54 AM, Douglas Nygren via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Attached >>>>> >>>> is a link to an article describing using the Fuji X100s to do >>>> black and >>>> white photograph. >>>> >>>>> Given the high cost of the Monochrom, this may be a >>>>> >>>> good alternative. >>>> X100S is a camera Leica should have made, but didn't. >>>> >>>> I look forward to reading your comments. >>>>> Doug >>>>> >>>>> The Fuji >>>>> >>>> Monochrom By James Conley >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Fuji Monochrom By James Conley >>>>> The Fuji Monochrom By James Conley A major impediment most new >>>>> >>>> photographers face is that color is the default mode of expression. Not >>>> only >>>> are we inundated by ... >>>> >>>>> View on www.stevehuffphoto.com Preview by >>>>> >>>> Yahoo >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users >>>> Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>> information >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Tina >>> >>>> Manley >>>> >>> www.tinamanley.com >>> tina-manley.artistwebsites.com >>> >>> ____________________ >>> >>>> ___________________________ >>>> >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See >>> >>>> http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Mark William Rabiner >>> Photographer >>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> No virus found in this message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 2015.0.5315 / Virus Database: 4158/8243 - Release Date: 09/19/14 >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> No virus found in this message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 2015.0.5315 / Virus Database: 4158/8241 - Release Date: 09/19/14 >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> No virus found in this message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 2015.0.5315 / Virus Database: 4158/8243 - Release Date: 09/19/14 >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> No virus found in this message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 2015.0.5315 / Virus Database: 4158/8241 - Release Date: 09/19/14 >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > -- // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com> // http://facebook.com/richardmanphoto // https://www.facebook.com/Transformations.CosplayPortraits