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Subject: [Leica] Is this ethical?
From: kcarney1 at cox.net (Ken Carney)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 17:09:00 -0500
References: <A0FD9D13-4835-43A0-A8BD-E0C37ECC6B31@gmail.com> <007b01cf9c86$64d1b750$2e7525f0$@verizon.net> <QliJ1o02C07g8Sg01liK7Z>

The only times I have heard this, I've suspected it was someone on the 
run and best not to make a federal case out of it, so to speak. But that 
aside, this would be a good question for Chuck Klosterman 
(http://topics.nytimes.com/top/features/magazine/columns/the_ethicist/index.html).

Ken

On 7/10/2014 4:41 PM, Sonny Carter wrote:
> Yeah, Frank, and she describes Luis to her big-ass Uncle and his pals.
>
> Let's see how far your Thursday afternoon reasoning takes Luis then.   ;-)
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 4:32 PM, Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Situation:  The kid is probably 8-11 years old.  You are on the public
>> street.  You take her picture,  She says no photos.  You did not erase the
>> images taken before the NO.....
>>
>> I realize this is Spain, with different rules/laws, however..... in the
>> US....
>>
>> The girl is a minor with essentially no legal rights.  In this case NO
>> means
>> nothing.
>> Photography of a minor, assuming it is not in the least bit pornographic 
>> or
>> perverse, is not against the law.  Ditto any other age.
>> You are on a public street, visible. You have the legal right to 
>> photograph
>> anything from a public street.  Anything.
>>
>> Now if you were to use the photograph to financial gain ( sell/rent/use 
>> the
>> picture in an advertisement, for example) the rules change.....  It is
>> still
>> lawful, but she could sue you for use without reimbursement.... and win.
>>
>> This all centers upon the "rights" of the Paparazzi.  Which have been
>> upheld
>> in the US.
>>
>> Are you planning to make a lot of money from this photograph?
>>
>> Shall we call you Don Paparazzi Luis?
>>
>> Frank Filippone
>> Red735i at verizon.net
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+red735i=verizon.net at leica-users.org] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Lluis Ripoll
>> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 10:56 AM
>> To: Leica Users Group; MUGers at yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: [Leica] Is this ethical?
>>
>> The Luggers who has been in Barcelona they know very well this place, Sant
>> Felip de Neri, I love it! There is as school there and I've take some
>> shoots
>> trying to respect the privacity. The young girl has came and said me "no
>> photos" , I have processed the image with a certain contrast to made the
>> faces more difficult to be identified. In Spain there is no Law 
>> regulations
>> about restrictions to photograph children. What do you think?
>>
>> Children, Pl. Sant Felip de Neri
>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Barcelona/2014061102.jpg.html>
>>
>> No photo
>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Barcelona/2014061103.jpg.html>
>>
>> Leica MP, Summilux 50 v2, Agfa APX100, Plustek, Vuescan
>>
>> Thanks, I will appreciate your c&c !
>>
>> Saludos cordiales
>> Lluis
>>
>>
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Replies: Reply from george.imagist at icloud.com (George Lottermoser) ([Leica] Is this ethical?)
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